SWIM am planning on ordering some amanitas from BBB today. He is wondering since the supplier offers many varieties, which one should he buy? Also, how should SWIM ingest the fruit and what dose should be used? He would like to know if there is a need to combine this with an MAOI or other entheogen.
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1/4 Pound of Amanita Muscaria
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TrigZu
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Ahhhh the joys of amanita! I picked my own, make sure you bake them or extract the goodies first, you don't want the ibotenic acid. It'll make you throw up. Chances are you won't die, but you'll be plagued with cold sweats and blurry vision, the latter is fun, the other is not.
All amanita shrooms have ibotenic acid, there is no right type. You must prepare them.
All amanita shrooms have ibotenic acid, there is no right type. You must prepare them.
TrigZu
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Allow me to elaborate.TrigZu said:
There are many types of amanita mushrooms, what you want is amanita muscaria, so I suppose there is a right type. But don't be fooled into thinking that they can't make you sick, because they can. All amanita mushrooms can kill you, even muscaria. The chances of dying on muscaria are quite slim though, so as long as you don't take a huge dose you should be fine. Amanita muscaria must be prepared. I personally ate 3 raw amanita muscaria a threw up 30 minutes later. Besides having a headache and bodyache I was fine. The purge (throw-up/puking) was quick and easy. My friend tried to dry some to get rid of the ibotenic acid, but only managed to yield rotted mushrooms.
Next we tried baking them. A difficult process, especially when you have no house to do it at. You have to be careful when baking because the edges will dry, but the center will not, so you must constantly be separating the dry parts, otherwise you'll end up burning stuff. The end result will be something like a cracker. When you're ready to trip, take these, "crackers", grind them up and throw them in a warm brew (drink).
I don't know why, but heat seemed to do the trick for me. I tried to take the mushrooms several times in apple sauce with everything from small to very large doses to no avail. In hot chocolate and warm tea I tripped every time. Simply let your brew sit (don't drink it) for 20 minutes after putting the grinded materials into it, then enjoy.
You shouldn't have to worry about the baking process if you're ordering them. They've probably already been dried.
You may be plagued with cold sweats and blurry vision for the during the duration of the trip. I find that a shower is the best solution for the sweats.
You might also start having cold sweats and nightmares for a few weeks after your "trip".
LawnBoy
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which one should he buy? I hate to tell other people what to do, but buy a variety if you have the money. That way you can play around. If you don't have much money, buy the cheapest. Erowid will give you an idea of potency, and the prices will too. An extract will be much more consistent, but I grind all my caps and thoroughly mix the powder. This provides excellent consistency.
how should SWIM ingest the fruit The tea is bland and tastes just like the mushrooms smell. It's not necessary. I like to cap them or eat them. Little stomach discomfort on large doses. No cramps or pain, just full tummy feeling. I don't like the taste of mushrooms in general.
how much? start off small very small. You would rather feel nothing than go to the hospital. Even when dealing with the same supplier, nature is full of surprises. You could have a odd batch, an odd day etc. This stuff takes a bit to kick in, so wait 2-3 hours or more before re-dosing.
He would like to know if there is a need to combine this with an MAOI or other entheogen.
There is no need, but may get interesting. Apparently the goodies are practically unharmed or barely harmed by MAO. So an MAO may be too much. I would think it'd be fun with an upper like mesc. it is a sleepy drug. Nitrous is fun with it, but nitrous is fun with everything.
I ordered some 15x extract off ebay. It's not worth it, more like 2x if that. The stuff was powder sold as a co2 extraction. It looked like finely blended mushroom. I ate the amount I normally would eat of the 15x and felt a buzz about twice the equivalency to b's eastern european. I've been a long time customer, a friend has a pair of their toads. Anyway, I've ordered their european amanita, but nothing else. UNTIL TODAY! they must have just got their 15x in stock, its a resin.
how should SWIM ingest the fruit The tea is bland and tastes just like the mushrooms smell. It's not necessary. I like to cap them or eat them. Little stomach discomfort on large doses. No cramps or pain, just full tummy feeling. I don't like the taste of mushrooms in general.
how much? start off small very small. You would rather feel nothing than go to the hospital. Even when dealing with the same supplier, nature is full of surprises. You could have a odd batch, an odd day etc. This stuff takes a bit to kick in, so wait 2-3 hours or more before re-dosing.
He would like to know if there is a need to combine this with an MAOI or other entheogen.
There is no need, but may get interesting. Apparently the goodies are practically unharmed or barely harmed by MAO. So an MAO may be too much. I would think it'd be fun with an upper like mesc. it is a sleepy drug. Nitrous is fun with it, but nitrous is fun with everything.
I ordered some 15x extract off ebay. It's not worth it, more like 2x if that. The stuff was powder sold as a co2 extraction. It looked like finely blended mushroom. I ate the amount I normally would eat of the 15x and felt a buzz about twice the equivalency to b's eastern european. I've been a long time customer, a friend has a pair of their toads. Anyway, I've ordered their european amanita, but nothing else. UNTIL TODAY! they must have just got their 15x in stock, its a resin.
biopsylo
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i couldn't imagine capping amanita muscaria. i have on two occasions, on two diff continents, picked, dried, and consumed 33g of muscaria with pleasant, but mild effects--i was expecting, and thought i was ready for, death and re-birth:shock:
the second time i ate a capsule of psilocybin also, and this was also very pleasant, but not everyone would agree.
maybe the russian/siberian variety is stronger?? this is supposedly where all the mythology comes from.
James Arthur and the pharmacractic inquisition hint at a combination of muscaria, psilocybin, syrian rue, and opium.
others on the nexus suggest that the amanita pantherina is easier on the body, and possibly more interesting.
dont they grow where u live??
the second time i ate a capsule of psilocybin also, and this was also very pleasant, but not everyone would agree.
maybe the russian/siberian variety is stronger?? this is supposedly where all the mythology comes from.
James Arthur and the pharmacractic inquisition hint at a combination of muscaria, psilocybin, syrian rue, and opium.
others on the nexus suggest that the amanita pantherina is easier on the body, and possibly more interesting.
dont they grow where u live??
memo
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Attached is Amanita Muscaria notes from Erowid. I had a successful experience with Muscaria by drying fresh mushrooms in the oven and then making what I thought was a very tasty soup with the dried mushrooms by simmering just below a boil with 1/2 a cap of a huge Muscaria. The experience was marked drowsiness followed by a fitful deep sleep with very vivid dreams. I think that I may have missed some of the trippy effects because of sleeping through them. Just because they are dried doesn't necessarily mean that they have been prepared by baking which converts the ibotenic acid to muscimol.
biopsylo
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this is about what happened to me, as well. the first time i fell asleep, and had the feeling i missed the trip, too. while the 2nd time, with a very small psilocybin dose, the oev's in the dark, and general comfortable feeling were a bit more memorable. and again, this was on 33 crispy dried grams of red muscaria from nz simmered like soup.
next time i will air dry large caps, then put them in the toaster to see if this changes anything.
i takes a lot of nerve for me to consume that much entheogen, i have a bit more courage now.
SERIOUSLY DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION!TrigZu said:
If you are crazy enough to seek the amanita, you want to be 100% it is Amanita Muscarai! There are fatally poisonous species under the Amanita genus such as "The Destroying Angel", aka "The Death Cap".
Know your source or know your mushrooms, be safe.
biopsylo
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the destroying angel is an all white mushroom.
the good thing about amanita muscaria is that it is virtually impossible to confuse with any other mushroom. if it is big and bright red with white spots, that is it.
(every field guide lists this mushroom as poisonous):x
but, yes, use caution, and be careful.
i dont encourage anyone to take the high doses i do...i must have been temporarily psychotic :shock: :shock: :shock:
the good thing about amanita muscaria is that it is virtually impossible to confuse with any other mushroom. if it is big and bright red with white spots, that is it.
(every field guide lists this mushroom as poisonous):x
but, yes, use caution, and be careful.
i dont encourage anyone to take the high doses i do...i must have been temporarily psychotic :shock: :shock: :shock: