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OpeningPandorasBox

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** I have edited this with a sober mind to more accurately reflect the experience

Im still coming down and just realizing what happened. Smoked at least 250mg (loaded 250mg but not sure how much was vaped in the first few inhales) along with some peppermint and other herbs including one I will add later when i remember how to spell it (damiana). Again im still coming down. Used The Key V2 and went so far im not sure I ever need to return (to that level). The whole experience started with a few drinks as all mistakes do. (In retrospect I was under the influence but not drunk) Came home and had decided to load the vape. (Had planned to span the dose out over a few hours but got way too much in first few tokes) Again im still coming down so excuse my poor linguistics. I became aware of myself on the floor in a room not familiar to me with my roommate standing over me. He looked as though I was dying as im sure I appeared. Fear beyond comprehension was all I could experience at this point. My entire life was a false vernier of reality. A reality in which I played no significant role. Day would never come and even if it did it was only a pathetic point of view from the perspective of some minuscule being on a planet being cast light by an unconcerned star. Everything I knew was and still mostly is shattered.

For some further detail I later realized that I was rolling around on a folding table and a bunch of glass shards. (This was my fault for not having a safe environment but I was not injured) I thought the glass was pieces of my water pipe but later realized I had set it in a careful place. I now see that the glass shards and wetness are from a glass of water I had on my table before I smashed it with my unconscious body. For awhile I thought I had overdosed on Datura (which I had taken none of) due to the prolonged confused delirium I had never experienced before. I kept asking my friend what was happening and could make no sense of any of my surroundings.

All in all it was (a painful) an eye opening experience. I have been shown the futileness and insignificance of normal human existence while being exposed to the awesome vastness and power of the universe. Im sure this will be a place to which I will return one day but for now im happy to be back on planet earth and perpetuating the excepted hallucination of normal human reality.

(Moral of the story...respect the spice)
 
There's been a few reports here lately involving stupidly large doses.

I really hope this isn't something that is growing here on the Nexus; that somehow by relaying the experience or getting attention or praise even for taking too much, people are being encouraged to take these stupid amounts. I'd hate to see some kind of macho 'who can piss the furthest' culture taking root here.
 
I hope you didn't cut yourself on the glass or otherwise injure yourself. I have to agree with 88 that I am unsettled by a lot of the recent reports I've read. Why did you smoke 250mg? I hope it wasn't in one go, there'd be no point to that. I don't really have anything constructive to say other than

Please Be Safe


SB
 
I see no dose mentioned and i have no idea what this V2 thing is, so the way i read this post is that somebody got wasted somehow by combining alcohol and DMT.

What we can learn from this is perhaps that the two don't combine well.
 
polytrip said:
I see no dose mentioned and i have no idea what this V2 thing is, so the way i read this post is that somebody got wasted somehow by combining alcohol and DMT.

What we can learn from this is perhaps that the two don't combine well.

Dosage...
OpeningPandorasBox said:
Smoked at least 250mg along with some peppermint and other herbs including one I will add later when i remember how to spell it.
Device...

And yea, alcohol + dmt = sub-optimal experience. As house always said CNS accelerants and CNS depressants shouldn't be combined.
 
Ye, Im not going to harp on about what a waste if spice that must be, but there are a few points I'd like to mantion:

alcohol and DMT don't mix well, rather not disrespect the molecule by smoking while intoxicated
set and setting, please people try and clear away any dangerous objects when on a journey, if one likes to have water or juice close by, put that liquid in a plastic cup. Any glass objects, ie tables, glasses, vases or any other harmfull objects should be put aside, a safe distance away from you so you minimize the risk if harm.

Apart from that, did you clear that bowl or are there a few more journeys in there, I'm finding hard to comprehend how some people are smoking 5-10 times the needed dose for a breakthrough.

I'm glad you are ok and no accidents happened.
 
SnozzleBerry said:
polytrip said:
I see no dose mentioned and i have no idea what this V2 thing is, so the way i read this post is that somebody got wasted somehow by combining alcohol and DMT.

What we can learn from this is perhaps that the two don't combine well.

Dosage...
OpeningPandorasBox said:
Smoked at least 250mg along with some peppermint and other herbs including one I will add later when i remember how to spell it.
Device...

And yea, alcohol + dmt = sub-optimal experience. As house always said CNS accelerants and CNS depressants shouldn't be combined.
Now that you mention it:roll:

Hmm, 250mg's is indeed quite a bit.
That dosage is normally around where you start losing your sanity, your grasp on living on this planet and some other things as well.

Next time OpeningPandorasBox, try vaping it without the drinks. It might actually do something.
 
In the first place, kudos on your hardware store vaporizer thingy. It ain't exactly like this is the Hadron Collider or anything, but well done on making something effective to smoke your spice out of.

But...

No way do I believe you cleared 250mgs before going out. Hard to imagine your pipe is more efficient than other commercially available vaporizors, and ingesting that much out of any device just isn't physically possible. I'm sure you maximized your dose (just as you would with a vaporgenie, for example) - but more likely, 200mgs of it just bled through the screens and disappeared.

Regardless, I don't have a lot of sympathy for your hard ride, I'm sorry. There is no place for hubris with DMT. This new trend of young dudes try to out-dose each other and then reporting back like they're boldly going where the rest of us dare not venture is pretty fucking dumb and it lowers the tone of the community. Purposefully ingesting big doses (or exaggerating the numbers for effect) doesn't make you the lizard king - it makes you a dipshit.

Good job on the pipe though - creative and clever execution.
 
You’ll notice that most of those who take ridiculously large doses and then have the very predictable rough experience end up saying something like “I don’t think I’ll ever use/need DMT again”.

A beauty of DMT is that it’s irresponsible use is self-limiting. Those who think that they can take 250+mg in a single dose without “repercussions” learn otherwise.

I agree with Art concerning his doubts that one can even smoke 250mg. Someone with good lung capacity can take in maybe 50mg in a single inhalation. If he manages to get another 50mg in his 2nd toke, I find it very hard to believe that there would be a 3rd, let alone a 4th and a 5th!

I don’t see how after inhaling 100mg of DMT vapor anyone would even know what it means to inhale.
 
Getting it done without having to bark to the fairytale princes halfway the procedure is indeed an issue....But once people are dancing with cleopatra and her fractal sisters they usually forget about the rest.
I can imagine infinite amounts could get vaped that way.
 
Hey all I would just just like to clarify that IN NO WAY was I trying to vape mass quantities of spice. I had planned to span it out over a few hours but had never used this device in this way before and later found out it needs to be worked much more carefully.

I had a very thick bed of peppermint beneath the spice with some damiana and harmine on top. And again as I stated earlier I had been out drinking with friends before this but I was not drunk, but my coordination and logical processes were not up to par for the task of operating this device correctly. I made a mistake and paid for it. I hope the post did not read as a glorification as it was not intended to be.

I actually try not to post things while under any influence but this experience left me gasping for reality and with a need to try to verbalize my feelings.

I appreciate the criticism though as if I had done this intentionally it would have been a severe abuse of the spice. I also do not condone massive dosing and hope this serves as a lesson and reminder for not only myself but others who come across it.

**Now that my mind is clear in going to edit the original post to more reflect the reality of the situation
 
I am really not a "Tough Guy". 90% of the time I am aiming for close to but still sub-breakthrough experiences as I am still able to function on some level and enjoying exploring outside etc. Everyone makes mistakes from time to time and spice makes sure to let you know when you do.
 
I don't get this whole mentality of more is better, when it comes to spice..In my experience 50 mg is the max that I would ever need, or want!Don't be surprised if you take 200+ mg and you have a negative experience!!People who do not respect this molecule will get what is coming to them.Always respect the spice, it deserves it!
 
hedcase said:
I don't get this whole mentality of more is better, when it comes to spice..In my experience 50 mg is the max that I would ever need, or want!Don't be surprised if you take 200+ mg and you have a negative experience!!People who do not respect this molecule will get what is coming to them.Always respect the spice, it deserves it!

On the other hand, if that has already happened - let it be known. It may serve as a deterrent to the others.
 
Trickster said:
hedcase said:
I don't get this whole mentality of more is better, when it comes to spice..In my experience 50 mg is the max that I would ever need, or want!Don't be surprised if you take 200+ mg and you have a negative experience!!People who do not respect this molecule will get what is coming to them.Always respect the spice, it deserves it!

On the other hand, if that has already happened - let it be known. It may serve as a deterrent to the others.
Hoping that it does..
 
hedcase said:
I don't get this whole mentality of more is better, when it comes to spice..In my experience 50 mg is the max that I would ever need, or want!Don't be surprised if you take 200+ mg and you have a negative experience!!People who do not respect this molecule will get what is coming to them.Always respect the spice, it deserves it!

did you bother reading the whole thread? I did not intend this dose in one go. I was just looking to maintain sub-hyperspace for several hours but ended up vaporizing way to much right away.

The hostility of some posts on this thread is disconcerting as I was under the impression this was a place for friendly discussion of a common interest. I am not trying to have a pissing contest and belittling comments are unnecessary. I would understand this if I had intended to "over dose" and I understand that the original posting may have read that way but I have now stated several times that that was not my intention. 50mg of spice with MAOI will not last for several hours so I used more in order to redose as needed. I was using a new device to vaporize and it vaped much more quickly than I had predicted, thus my described experience. I have tried to be beyond clear about this.

My line of thought considers posting a thread on a mistake very useful as the only thing better than learning from your own mistakes is learning from other's.
 
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