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1 KG Batch Battleplan

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obliguhl

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Tools & Quantites:

1 KG bark
15L Water
1KG Lye
1l naptha/pull (5l available)
20l Carboy with spigot


Cleanup:

-Natrium carbonate wash
-Recrystallisation

Questions:

-How to use the carboy as a seperatory funnel?
-How to recycle most of the naptha?
-Are my friends ratios right?
 

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Well SWIM never understood how could people use a separatory funnel (or in this case a carboy with spigot) in an stb. The lower acqueous part sticks to the walls and everything. Remember the acqueous thick liquid is what will be drained out and the naphtha with some remains of black liquid on the wall will be on top (so more possibility of contamination). In an A/B. sounds more doable as one only deals with a filtered liquid.

Maybe finding another way to separate the layers. Like using a tube to suck off the top layer more crudely (you know like getting gasoline from a tank, using an initial vacuum and the gravity) and into a taller thinner container. No problem if some of the black basic liquid comes together, because in the thinner taller container one can decant most of the clean naphtha and then accurately pipette the final bit away.

Just gotta thing of a propper way to make the first vacuum force. SWIM once tried with a vacuum cleaner straight connected to the tube, but it just sucked stuff way too fast through the tube (and into the vacuum cleaner). But what one could do is make the same principle as in a vacuum filtering system, so that the filtered liquid doesnt go to the vacuum source (like using an hdpe container with a tube from the top where the desire things will come, that goes down to almost the bottom, and another tube coming out of some top side, where the vacuum source will be. So the vacuum liquid fills the bottom of the jug and due to gravity dont jump to the top part where the vacuum source is). And then from this container used for vacuum, just pour into a thinner taller container and proceed as mentioned before


its an idea at least, I guess there are other possibilities one can think of
 
I would love to know where you can get a container like that. Doesn't have to be as big, 5L would be fine. I saw 69Ron post a pic of the same one in another thread, and have had no luck in tracking one down.
 
Crazy cool gear! Looks like agitation will be a 2 person job, might try a modified hammock (zip ties for stiches?)that is strong enough to hold the beast and gently rotate equal times in both directions. As to ratios I recommend asking in the advanced section, I surely do not know. Try to keep the ph around 13-14 and it should be good. Saving solvent could be done by room temp mickey mouse distillation - two jugs, one hose, one ice cream maker - solvent in one jug stays room temp and cold side collects the evap, its pretty noisy and inept but kind of works if the seals are true. Warming slightly will speed things up, but either way this is a test of patience and not really recommended. Also connect a hose to the spigot to prevent excess agitation and emulsions when decanting. That is about all I can suggest, hope it goes squinkily!
 
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