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It sounds like you had a very intense experience. As you now know, liquid DMT will readily soak into any nearby plant material – most of your dose was probably absorbed as soon as you melted it, so you got the bulk of the dose when you smoked the plant material.

Everybody defines a breakthrough differently, and it doesn’t really matter what you call it. What’s most important is the experience itself and how it affects you. But based on your description of the experience, I would say that it’s possible to go much further.

And welcome to the Nexus!
 
MaryJade202 said:
I really enjoyed watching these streams of arrows flow through with the room.
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You're the first person I've heard describe that phenomena that I get from time to time. It's really interesting and I can't really explain it much better than you did, but I think I know what you're talking about. The good news is that you can't die smoking DMT, so you should dismiss that from your worries. I think an important lesson you've learned is that even when it's crazier than you could have ever imagined it being, you always come back, and that's a lesson best learned by experience cause the words don't really cut it. If things get rough, just stay a little patient and everything will be back to normal. Often times for myself it's over too soon.
 
MaryJade202 said:
I'm almost scared that you said I could go further with the DMT, gibran2. Maybe it was because I wasn't prepared to actually see the kind of things I saw, but it definitely scared me enough to not want to trip that hard again. Like I said, I don't know if it'd be any different if I had closed my eyes, or if it'll be any different knowing what I might actually experience.
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When I said that it’s likely you can go much further, I deliberately avoided labeling going further as good or bad. There is no experience that can compare to a deep, immersive, out-of-body DMT journey to the immaterial realm. I call these journeys “participation in the divine mystery”. Such experiences are profound beyond words, but not frightening.

Only you can decide if going deeper is something you need.
 
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Actually for me anyhows Salvia is a "walk in the park" compared to DMT. It's fairly predictable and constant in it's subjective effects, even the bad ass trips can be seen through without appreciable anxiety.
DMT is ( at least in the few times i've tried it) wildly unpredictable and varied. It's certainly more "interesting" than Salvia, though for me DMT is less therapeutic "post trip". I'm convinced Salvia contains highly potent antidepresssant effects acting on a general physiological level, whereas DMT might provide the same relief to an individual on a pyschological " enlightened" level. Just a hunch of mine for what it's worth.
 
arcanum said:
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Actually for me anyhows Salvia is a "walk in the park" compared to DMT. It's fairly predictable and constant in it's subjective effects, even the bad ass trips can be seen through without appreciable anxiety.
DMT is ( at least in the few times i've tried it) wildly unpredictable and varied. It's certainly more "interesting" than Salvia, though for me DMT is less therapeutic "post trip". I'm convinced Salvia contains highly potent antidepresssant effects acting on a general physiological level, whereas DMT might provide the same relief to an individual on a pyschological " enlightened" level. Just a hunch of mine for what it's worth.
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Well I guess everyone's different because the DMT afterglow can be more euphoric and emotionally/physically/psychologically uplifting for me in a way that no antidepressant can lay a finger on. On certain days salvia can be a walk in the park, and on others I may find myself with the unfortunate existence of being an inanimate object or taken on some dissociative loop. Though I agree that DMT is wildly unpredictable (part of it that I love), salvia is right up there at #2 and does not present itself as predictable at all to me.
 
aaah the importance of weighing your dose! The difference between an immersive, yet bearable trip, or a terrifying propulsion through ever morphing space / time / concioussness / what ever land! SWIM made this mistake with Changa once. Luckily he is pretty good with the whole surrendering to the experience thing or h would have been scared shitless!

As for Salvia... I am warming to the idea again, but didn't enjoy it / get much from it the few times that I tried it in the past...
 
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