OneIsEros
Rising Star
Preface: I would say to any who are interested:
I was tempted to try this by the mystique of ultimacy. Based on what I found, as cool as this compound may be, the considerably safer standard oral DMT preparations were in my own evaluation, greatly preferable entheogens.
Meditation practice is far better with oral DMT than oral 5-MeO-DMT.
Original post:
I insufflated 5 mg of 5-MeO-DMT tonight. I at the most experienced sub-perceptual effects. But as a person with basically no experience snorting things, I can say I do not plan on doing that again. Meditating would be very difficult with that sort of sensation going on the whole time.
I am aware that harmalas+5-MeO-DMT=danger. But, I have a great scale I can tare to high accuracy, and from what I’ve read on erowid, it seems folk have pulled through, though there are reports of emergency room trips, and people have died. I’d be doing 10 mg 5-MeO-DMT and maybe 200 mg harmine orally.hMy question is; has anyone done this? If you’d be kind enough to share your experience, I would be grateful.
I’m not a fan of vaping myself into breakthroughs, I prefer doing sitting meditation for the duration of my psychedelic trips instead.
—First update—
5 mg 5-MeO-DMT with 200 mg harmine eaten at the same wrapped up in a piece of toiletpaper, is a strong dose for me personally - my original plan of 10 mg would have been a bad idea - and I have never met anyone who takes larger doses of psychedelics than myself in 13 years of tripping (internet lore suggests there are others out there). Eat a croissant after eating pharmahuasca of any kind, it in my experience guarantees it will kick in. Do not start out with larger doses of this substance. It could kill you or permanently harm you psychologically.
—Second update —
I did this again, and just like the first time it took a full two hours to really start kicking in. I don’t know if this is a pharmahuasca thing or a 5-MeO-DMT thing yet, but beware of the potential time delay!!!! Also I did 10 mg this time. Intense! Also felt a bit of chest/breathing issues, nothing threatening; BUT for the love of God; be careful with this substance. Just a few milligrams off... could be physically dangerous. Plus.... it is very psychologically intense. The duration is six hours. You’ll still be pretty high by hour six, but not as heavy in the grip of it. Maybe 8 or 9 hours to be basically baseline.
---Third update ---
again, took 200 mg harmine + 10 mg 5-MeO-DMT in a piece of toilet paper followed by a croissant. This time it took an hour and 40 minutes. Pharmahuasca for me taken in this manner usually hits in 20-30 minutes. I am coming to conclude that this is one of several psychedelics that takes longer than usual to hit.
Also - IF you are feeling threatened by chest/breathing issues. Call an ambulance. There are reports of people dying or blacking out and waking up in hospitals. You don't want to black out and die and have the last thing you remember being: "Ugh, this feels really bad...". It is recommended you have a sober sitter with you not for the psychological but for the real physical danger that you could die. That being said: IF it is only uncomfortable and not feeling threatening... masturbate. This drug is an incredible sex drug, and I cannot wait to try it with a partner. I saw lots of colors on orgasm, and it helped a lot with the chest/breathing discomfort I was experiencing. It's not an entactogen, but the sense of touch... wow. I love sex on psychedelics generally, but this is something special. Washing my hands felt great.
---Fourth update---
Tried 10 mg 5-MeO-DMT with a few drops of vinegar and 5 ml water taken rectally. An hour and 20 minutes in, it works, but definitely not as well as the same dose taken orally with 200 mg harmine.
From research I did on ayahuasca taken rectally it appeared like people were reporting that harmalas absorb very well rectally, but the DMT not so much.
There may be variation in different people or I might be doing something wrong, but I’m back to oral ingestion for both 5-MeO-DMT combined with harmalas and DMT combined with harmalas.
---Fifth update---
Before I begin, a little note for the community: all this stuff y'all say about grinding syrian rue seeds, and adding lemon juice, all that jazz - no guys. Just dump the rue seeds, whole, into a pot of water, and boil it on high for 10 minutes. Presto, fully active liquid. All that extra stuff (grinding the seeds, lemon juice, etc.) just makes it more gross. Yuck. A ten minute boil is sufficient.
Okay, so, I did a three gram shot of rue liquid, followed by a parachute in a rolling paper (I cut the paper down so there was as little of the paper there as possible) of 10 mg 5-MeO-DMT.
It kicked in at the normal time psychedelics normally kick in, about a half hour in. So I suppose the delay before had something to do with the pure harmine and 5-MeO-DMT being in a piece of toilet paper... not the 5-MeO-DMT itself.
There is no pharmacological aspect of oral 5-MeO-DMT that would make it kick in late (as psychedelics like ibogaine or mescaline or DOx compounds, which take 2 hours to hit, do). The delay in my previous experiments was evidently due to ingestion method, not inherent pharmacology.
I was tempted to try this by the mystique of ultimacy. Based on what I found, as cool as this compound may be, the considerably safer standard oral DMT preparations were in my own evaluation, greatly preferable entheogens.
Meditation practice is far better with oral DMT than oral 5-MeO-DMT.
Original post:
I insufflated 5 mg of 5-MeO-DMT tonight. I at the most experienced sub-perceptual effects. But as a person with basically no experience snorting things, I can say I do not plan on doing that again. Meditating would be very difficult with that sort of sensation going on the whole time.
I am aware that harmalas+5-MeO-DMT=danger. But, I have a great scale I can tare to high accuracy, and from what I’ve read on erowid, it seems folk have pulled through, though there are reports of emergency room trips, and people have died. I’d be doing 10 mg 5-MeO-DMT and maybe 200 mg harmine orally.hMy question is; has anyone done this? If you’d be kind enough to share your experience, I would be grateful.
I’m not a fan of vaping myself into breakthroughs, I prefer doing sitting meditation for the duration of my psychedelic trips instead.
—First update—
5 mg 5-MeO-DMT with 200 mg harmine eaten at the same wrapped up in a piece of toiletpaper, is a strong dose for me personally - my original plan of 10 mg would have been a bad idea - and I have never met anyone who takes larger doses of psychedelics than myself in 13 years of tripping (internet lore suggests there are others out there). Eat a croissant after eating pharmahuasca of any kind, it in my experience guarantees it will kick in. Do not start out with larger doses of this substance. It could kill you or permanently harm you psychologically.
—Second update —
I did this again, and just like the first time it took a full two hours to really start kicking in. I don’t know if this is a pharmahuasca thing or a 5-MeO-DMT thing yet, but beware of the potential time delay!!!! Also I did 10 mg this time. Intense! Also felt a bit of chest/breathing issues, nothing threatening; BUT for the love of God; be careful with this substance. Just a few milligrams off... could be physically dangerous. Plus.... it is very psychologically intense. The duration is six hours. You’ll still be pretty high by hour six, but not as heavy in the grip of it. Maybe 8 or 9 hours to be basically baseline.
---Third update ---
again, took 200 mg harmine + 10 mg 5-MeO-DMT in a piece of toilet paper followed by a croissant. This time it took an hour and 40 minutes. Pharmahuasca for me taken in this manner usually hits in 20-30 minutes. I am coming to conclude that this is one of several psychedelics that takes longer than usual to hit.
Also - IF you are feeling threatened by chest/breathing issues. Call an ambulance. There are reports of people dying or blacking out and waking up in hospitals. You don't want to black out and die and have the last thing you remember being: "Ugh, this feels really bad...". It is recommended you have a sober sitter with you not for the psychological but for the real physical danger that you could die. That being said: IF it is only uncomfortable and not feeling threatening... masturbate. This drug is an incredible sex drug, and I cannot wait to try it with a partner. I saw lots of colors on orgasm, and it helped a lot with the chest/breathing discomfort I was experiencing. It's not an entactogen, but the sense of touch... wow. I love sex on psychedelics generally, but this is something special. Washing my hands felt great.
---Fourth update---
Tried 10 mg 5-MeO-DMT with a few drops of vinegar and 5 ml water taken rectally. An hour and 20 minutes in, it works, but definitely not as well as the same dose taken orally with 200 mg harmine.
From research I did on ayahuasca taken rectally it appeared like people were reporting that harmalas absorb very well rectally, but the DMT not so much.
There may be variation in different people or I might be doing something wrong, but I’m back to oral ingestion for both 5-MeO-DMT combined with harmalas and DMT combined with harmalas.
---Fifth update---
Before I begin, a little note for the community: all this stuff y'all say about grinding syrian rue seeds, and adding lemon juice, all that jazz - no guys. Just dump the rue seeds, whole, into a pot of water, and boil it on high for 10 minutes. Presto, fully active liquid. All that extra stuff (grinding the seeds, lemon juice, etc.) just makes it more gross. Yuck. A ten minute boil is sufficient.
Okay, so, I did a three gram shot of rue liquid, followed by a parachute in a rolling paper (I cut the paper down so there was as little of the paper there as possible) of 10 mg 5-MeO-DMT.
It kicked in at the normal time psychedelics normally kick in, about a half hour in. So I suppose the delay before had something to do with the pure harmine and 5-MeO-DMT being in a piece of toilet paper... not the 5-MeO-DMT itself.
There is no pharmacological aspect of oral 5-MeO-DMT that would make it kick in late (as psychedelics like ibogaine or mescaline or DOx compounds, which take 2 hours to hit, do). The delay in my previous experiments was evidently due to ingestion method, not inherent pharmacology.