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Yes, the dose given out was about 20 mg of 91% pure elemicin oil per capsule. Some people took 2 capsules, most took 1.

There was a pretty big variance in effectiveness from person to person, but everyone who tried it said it was definitely “psychedelic” or “trippy”. It was being compared to LSD and MDMA by people experienced with such things. Keep in mind that this group of people was not really into psychedelics much, so they didn’t have much to compare it to other than LSD, MDMA and shrooms.

One girl said it was like ecstasy, but much more “trippy”, and without “the love”. When asked about visual effects, she had no idea what visual effects were. She never used anything other than MDMA and pot. When asked if it affected her vision at all, she said that things looked sort of different, sort of “animated” and “sparkly”. She took 1 capsule.

One of the guys who was a little experienced with LSD but more experienced with MDMA said it was more like LSD than MDMA. But he could tell it was not LSD or MDMA. When asked about visuals, he said he had visual effects and they were like LSD visuals but also different, less intense. He took 1 I believe.

Another person said he felt body tension from it, and got pretty strong visual effects, and almost a migraine like effect on his vision, and things looked like they were “flashing” and looked “watery”. He said it felt like a mix between MDMA and LSD, but with a strong body high and a tense feeling all over. He took 2. This is the only person who complained of body tension.

Another older guy who used LSD a lot in the 60’s said that he felt this drug before. He said he and a few others back in the 60’s got some strange “liquid gel caps” of “LSD” and they were exactly like the stuff he had at the party. He said he could very easily tell it wasn’t LSD. It “lacked the ultimate magic of acid”, but was still “psychedelic with a nice body glow”. I don’t remember how many this guy took. I think it was 2. He never tried any psychedelics other than LSD, so he couldn’t compare it to anything else. I was hoping he had tried peyote at least, but no such luck.

One guy got extremely hyper from it and could not sit still and became a little paranoid for a while. He said it came on really fast, just a few minutes after taking it, and made him feel nervous that he took too much, and he got a little “spooked out” because he kept seeing flashes of faces in moving patterns on the walls. He had never taken any psychedelic before and was a little freaked out by it. This guy took 1 capsule.

Another girl took 2 capsules and hardly got any effects from it. She said it had very mild visuals like a tiny dose of shrooms, but it felt nothing at all like shrooms, and was more like a strong cup of coffee. She had never tried LSD, only pot and shrooms, so she had little to compare it to.

There were many others there with similar comments. The fact that no one said it was like mescaline is because no one at the party had ever had mescaline before, so that doesn’t mean much.

At least 1 person got side effects that I’m aware of, and that was body tension.

As far as dosage, 1 capsule did almost nothing for a few people, while a few others got very strong effects from 1 capsule. So apparently either individual sensitivity to it varies a lot, or the person who measured the doses didn’t do an accurate job.

Parties are not the best places to do these kinds of things, and I personally think it was a little irresponsible to have such a thing as elemicin given out at a party like that. They were all however informed about it ahead of time and knew it was pretty much an RC with unknown risks involved.

I think 20 mg is too much for first time users. Some people got 40 mg. I think not more than 5 mg should be used for a first time. The fact that one guy at the party almost freaked out from 20 mg, is not at all good.

The girl who decided on the dosage had used it herself prior to giving it out and thought if less than 20 mg was used, people wouldn’t feel it. She determined that 20 mg was the minimum amount needed to feel it. She was apparently wrong.

<blockquote data-quote="69ron" data-source="post: 3362558" data-attributes="member: 787">Yes, the dose given out was about 20 mg of 91% pure elemicin oil per capsule. Some people took 2 capsules, most took 1. There was a pretty big variance in effectiveness from person to person, but everyone who tried it said it was definitely “psychedelic” or “trippy”. It was being compared to LSD and MDMA by people experienced with such things. Keep in mind that this group of people was not really into psychedelics much, so they didn’t have much to compare it to other than LSD, MDMA and shrooms.One girl said it was like ecstasy, but much more “trippy”, and without “the love”. When asked about visual effects, she had no idea what visual effects were. She never used anything other than MDMA and pot. When asked if it affected her vision at all, she said that things looked sort of different, sort of “animated” and “sparkly”. She took 1 capsule.One of the guys who was a little experienced with LSD but more experienced with MDMA said it was more like LSD than MDMA. But he could tell it was not LSD or MDMA. When asked about visuals, he said he had visual effects and they were like LSD visuals but also different, less intense. He took 1 I believe.Another person said he felt body tension from it, and got pretty strong visual effects, and almost a migraine like effect on his vision, and things looked like they were “flashing” and looked “watery”. He said it felt like a mix between MDMA and LSD, but with a strong body high and a tense feeling all over. He took 2. This is the only person who complained of body tension.Another older guy who used LSD a lot in the 60’s said that he felt this drug before. He said he and a few others back in the 60’s got some strange “liquid gel caps” of “LSD” and they were exactly like the stuff he had at the party. He said he could very easily tell it wasn’t LSD. It “lacked the ultimate magic of acid”, but was still “psychedelic with a nice body glow”. I don’t remember how many this guy took. I think it was 2. He never tried any psychedelics other than LSD, so he couldn’t compare it to anything else. I was hoping he had tried peyote at least, but no such luck.One guy got extremely hyper from it and could not sit still and became a little paranoid for a while. He said it came on really fast, just a few minutes after taking it, and made him feel nervous that he took too much, and he got a little “spooked out” because he kept seeing flashes of faces in moving patterns on the walls. He had never taken any psychedelic before and was a little freaked out by it. This guy took 1 capsule.Another girl took 2 capsules and hardly got any effects from it. She said it had very mild visuals like a tiny dose of shrooms, but it felt nothing at all like shrooms, and was more like a strong cup of coffee. She had never tried LSD, only pot and shrooms, so she had little to compare it to.There were many others there with similar comments. The fact that no one said it was like mescaline is because no one at the party had ever had mescaline before, so that doesn’t mean much.At least 1 person got side effects that I’m aware of, and that was body tension.As far as dosage, 1 capsule did almost nothing for a few people, while a few others got very strong effects from 1 capsule. So apparently either individual sensitivity to it varies a lot, or the person who measured the doses didn’t do an accurate job.Parties are not the best places to do these kinds of things, and I personally think it was a little irresponsible to have such a thing as elemicin given out at a party like that. They were all however informed about it ahead of time and knew it was pretty much an RC with unknown risks involved.I think 20 mg is too much for first time users. Some people got 40 mg. I think not more than 5 mg should be used for a first time. The fact that one guy at the party almost freaked out from 20 mg, is not at all good.The girl who decided on the dosage had used it herself prior to giving it out and thought if less than 20 mg was used, people wouldn’t feel it. She determined that 20 mg was the minimum amount needed to feel it. She was apparently wrong.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="69ron, post: 3362558, member: 787"] Yes, the dose given out was about 20 mg of 91% pure elemicin oil per capsule. Some people took 2 capsules, most took 1. There was a pretty big variance in effectiveness from person to person, but everyone who tried it said it was definitely “psychedelic” or “trippy”. It was being compared to LSD and MDMA by people experienced with such things. Keep in mind that this group of people was not really into psychedelics much, so they didn’t have much to compare it to other than LSD, MDMA and shrooms. One girl said it was like ecstasy, but much more “trippy”, and without “the love”. When asked about visual effects, she had no idea what visual effects were. She never used anything other than MDMA and pot. When asked if it affected her vision at all, she said that things looked sort of different, sort of “animated” and “sparkly”. She took 1 capsule. One of the guys who was a little experienced with LSD but more experienced with MDMA said it was more like LSD than MDMA. But he could tell it was not LSD or MDMA. When asked about visuals, he said he had visual effects and they were like LSD visuals but also different, less intense. He took 1 I believe. Another person said he felt body tension from it, and got pretty strong visual effects, and almost a migraine like effect on his vision, and things looked like they were “flashing” and looked “watery”. He said it felt like a mix between MDMA and LSD, but with a strong body high and a tense feeling all over. He took 2. This is the only person who complained of body tension. Another older guy who used LSD a lot in the 60’s said that he felt this drug before. He said he and a few others back in the 60’s got some strange “liquid gel caps” of “LSD” and they were exactly like the stuff he had at the party. He said he could very easily tell it wasn’t LSD. It “lacked the ultimate magic of acid”, but was still “psychedelic with a nice body glow”. I don’t remember how many this guy took. I think it was 2. He never tried any psychedelics other than LSD, so he couldn’t compare it to anything else. I was hoping he had tried peyote at least, but no such luck. One guy got extremely hyper from it and could not sit still and became a little paranoid for a while. He said it came on really fast, just a few minutes after taking it, and made him feel nervous that he took too much, and he got a little “spooked out” because he kept seeing flashes of faces in moving patterns on the walls. He had never taken any psychedelic before and was a little freaked out by it. This guy took 1 capsule. Another girl took 2 capsules and hardly got any effects from it. She said it had very mild visuals like a tiny dose of shrooms, but it felt nothing at all like shrooms, and was more like a strong cup of coffee. She had never tried LSD, only pot and shrooms, so she had little to compare it to. There were many others there with similar comments. The fact that no one said it was like mescaline is because no one at the party had ever had mescaline before, so that doesn’t mean much. At least 1 person got side effects that I’m aware of, and that was body tension. As far as dosage, 1 capsule did almost nothing for a few people, while a few others got very strong effects from 1 capsule. So apparently either individual sensitivity to it varies a lot, or the person who measured the doses didn’t do an accurate job. Parties are not the best places to do these kinds of things, and I personally think it was a little irresponsible to have such a thing as elemicin given out at a party like that. They were all however informed about it ahead of time and knew it was pretty much an RC with unknown risks involved. I think 20 mg is too much for first time users. Some people got 40 mg. I think not more than 5 mg should be used for a first time. The fact that one guy at the party almost freaked out from 20 mg, is not at all good. The girl who decided on the dosage had used it herself prior to giving it out and thought if less than 20 mg was used, people wouldn’t feel it. She determined that 20 mg was the minimum amount needed to feel it. She was apparently wrong. [/QUOTE]