Malaclypse
Rising Star
SWIM recently did his first extractions with the great help of this site and as a result I have been getting ready to take my first step into the world of Vaporized spice. I had vague intentions of trying to see if the moment felt right this weekend for a tiny dip in the waters. Nothing to do today so I led the day as if I would jump in.
I enjoyed that funny pre day inner dialogue to look for "signs" to see if I was ready today. Now I am not one that believes (or 100% dis-believes) in this stuff, but at a minimum it is a great way to check out your mindset and potentially anything in your sub-concious. Mentally I felt great, super clear as I haven't smoked any cannabis in over 3 weeks and have been meditating regularly. While out and about during the day I went to the book store and was just glancing around the psychology section and noticed the Spirit Molecule there. Obviously not very weird, but kind of an odd spot for it so I laugh at myself and think there is the first thing. I ended up buying book and the total came to 21.21 and the teller said something dumb about it being a double number which is funny cause you know how people can get with synchronicities and numbers. On the way home I noticed the UPS truck was out a few blocks from our house and notice it is the regular driver. I had a package coming sometime in the next few days and didn't want the driver to ring our doorbell during the trip and thought about that. I also didn't want to get home to find our neighbors home because they can be loud and I wanted it quite. We walk up and both of their cars are gone. I'm doing 30 minutes of meditation now with the intention of continuing on. Inner Dialogue is very chatty in comparison to normal with the anticipation/anxiety. About 20min in the doorbell rings and my wife gets it and it is the UPS guy with my package. SO OK, now all things are accounted for I get to see if I really want to do this and I am anxious but still know that I am going to.
I was originally planning on 20mg for my first attempt, but after reading some of the GVG threads about the intense delivery it provides combined with it being the 1st experience and 1st extraction SWIM ever did I figured I would play it safe and decided on 10mg not that I don't trust SWIM, but better to play it safe. So I measure out some stuff. 11g close enough. Going to try and not be too long winded with a "trip report" so many of those around, but just a little bit.
After first exhale I am instantly in the midst of the Mushroom tryptamine feeling that is so familar despite it being probably 12 years since my last mushroom experience. Things are wavy and my mind is very still and I wait it out to see whats what. Closed eyes not much going on visually, but there is a lot going on in general but yet still mind. After several minutes I decide to see if there is more melted into the wire since I can't see any. I a bunch of vapor on the 2nd hit. This time it comes up way more intense and I am into a pretty heavy mushroom trip type feeling, but it is so weird to just be there instantly. I am pretty sure this is were some of that familiar trip anxiety kicked in, but it might have even been as the 1st hit was coming on. Very morphy and depth perception is weird, can't tell where I end other stuff begins type feelings. Got some closed eye stuff. Despite being very sub breakthrough it is quite intense and I almost think to myself the heck with this ever again, but I relax into it after a bit. That hit settled for at least a minute or two and went back for a third, but less apprehensive now. I want to make sure I clear out the freebase so if/when I go back later I don't get more than I bargain for. It seemed to have dropped off some of the intensity, but I get more vapor and hold and am immediately back again, but less anxious. It's hard to recall whether I felt that this 3rd hit was much different experience wise than the 2nd. Nothing on further tokes as I made sure the device was clear.
I was obviously a little easy on the drags from the GVG. But quite a device! I didn't really taste much of anything and it was so smooth. Those poor guys that used to have to smoke like 60g and taste plastic and get harsh smoke just to get the experience
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So my main questions are
1) Is just a minute or so enough after a hit (like after my 2nd) enough to have the effects wear off enough for the next hit to not build on top of the experience? I'm trying to figure out how much the experience would have changed if I got the whole 11g in 3 back to back hits w/o any waiting in between. It definitely seemed like it was already dissipating some when I went for the 3rd hit but I don't know if it would still build regardless withing some small time frame.
2) With the GVG what is the lowest breakthrough dose some of you guys have ever used?
I think I might just bump it to 15-20mg next time and try and get it all in one big drag or at least do the drags back to back and see where that takes me. I'd like to go with the lowest amount where there is some potential for breakthrough. It seems like the GVG is very effective and I somehow doubt I will need a massive dose based on this experience.
I enjoyed that funny pre day inner dialogue to look for "signs" to see if I was ready today. Now I am not one that believes (or 100% dis-believes) in this stuff, but at a minimum it is a great way to check out your mindset and potentially anything in your sub-concious. Mentally I felt great, super clear as I haven't smoked any cannabis in over 3 weeks and have been meditating regularly. While out and about during the day I went to the book store and was just glancing around the psychology section and noticed the Spirit Molecule there. Obviously not very weird, but kind of an odd spot for it so I laugh at myself and think there is the first thing. I ended up buying book and the total came to 21.21 and the teller said something dumb about it being a double number which is funny cause you know how people can get with synchronicities and numbers. On the way home I noticed the UPS truck was out a few blocks from our house and notice it is the regular driver. I had a package coming sometime in the next few days and didn't want the driver to ring our doorbell during the trip and thought about that. I also didn't want to get home to find our neighbors home because they can be loud and I wanted it quite. We walk up and both of their cars are gone. I'm doing 30 minutes of meditation now with the intention of continuing on. Inner Dialogue is very chatty in comparison to normal with the anticipation/anxiety. About 20min in the doorbell rings and my wife gets it and it is the UPS guy with my package. SO OK, now all things are accounted for I get to see if I really want to do this and I am anxious but still know that I am going to.
I was originally planning on 20mg for my first attempt, but after reading some of the GVG threads about the intense delivery it provides combined with it being the 1st experience and 1st extraction SWIM ever did I figured I would play it safe and decided on 10mg not that I don't trust SWIM, but better to play it safe. So I measure out some stuff. 11g close enough. Going to try and not be too long winded with a "trip report" so many of those around, but just a little bit.
After first exhale I am instantly in the midst of the Mushroom tryptamine feeling that is so familar despite it being probably 12 years since my last mushroom experience. Things are wavy and my mind is very still and I wait it out to see whats what. Closed eyes not much going on visually, but there is a lot going on in general but yet still mind. After several minutes I decide to see if there is more melted into the wire since I can't see any. I a bunch of vapor on the 2nd hit. This time it comes up way more intense and I am into a pretty heavy mushroom trip type feeling, but it is so weird to just be there instantly. I am pretty sure this is were some of that familiar trip anxiety kicked in, but it might have even been as the 1st hit was coming on. Very morphy and depth perception is weird, can't tell where I end other stuff begins type feelings. Got some closed eye stuff. Despite being very sub breakthrough it is quite intense and I almost think to myself the heck with this ever again, but I relax into it after a bit. That hit settled for at least a minute or two and went back for a third, but less apprehensive now. I want to make sure I clear out the freebase so if/when I go back later I don't get more than I bargain for. It seemed to have dropped off some of the intensity, but I get more vapor and hold and am immediately back again, but less anxious. It's hard to recall whether I felt that this 3rd hit was much different experience wise than the 2nd. Nothing on further tokes as I made sure the device was clear.
I was obviously a little easy on the drags from the GVG. But quite a device! I didn't really taste much of anything and it was so smooth. Those poor guys that used to have to smoke like 60g and taste plastic and get harsh smoke just to get the experience
.So my main questions are
1) Is just a minute or so enough after a hit (like after my 2nd) enough to have the effects wear off enough for the next hit to not build on top of the experience? I'm trying to figure out how much the experience would have changed if I got the whole 11g in 3 back to back hits w/o any waiting in between. It definitely seemed like it was already dissipating some when I went for the 3rd hit but I don't know if it would still build regardless withing some small time frame.
2) With the GVG what is the lowest breakthrough dose some of you guys have ever used?
I think I might just bump it to 15-20mg next time and try and get it all in one big drag or at least do the drags back to back and see where that takes me. I'd like to go with the lowest amount where there is some potential for breakthrough. It seems like the GVG is very effective and I somehow doubt I will need a massive dose based on this experience.
