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That is certainly part of it. I have found that mushrooms seem to bring about a more loving state within me. I cannot explain it, but I feel at peace with myself and with others while on mushrooms, and even after the trip. It is as if the mushrooms allow me to reset to my core self, and love finds a natural avenue in that state.

Maybe he didn't think it was the path for everyone. I don't know. But I'm sure you wouldn't recommend DMT to everyone you know, even if you find it good for yourself. This is just speculation though. If psychedelics were the only way, then I would think it may have been mentioned. I also think music can serve spiritual purposes, but Jesus never spoke of music.

He may have said some things to some people, but that doesn't mean it should apply to all. He told the rich young ruler to see his possessions, because his attachment to his possessions was his main impediment. Perhaps with another person, just giving up coffee would sufficient. That's probably a bad example, but I think you get my point. I don't think all christians are meant to be naked bums walking around castrated. If the bible told me the only path to God was by being a castrated and naked bum, I would certainly question it's validity.

I use caffeine to study my bible, it helps me concentrate, but I don't think that Jesus had to give the approval beforehand to use caffeine when reading. I find no inconsistency. Similarly with psychedelics. When I am reflecting on my life and trying to figure out what is a good path to take, sometimes I find psychedelics to help in this regard. It allows me to focus on what is important to me. So if that is God, then it allows me to focus on God. In addition, the bible says that God is love. So if mushrooms allow me to love more effectively, or alternatively, if they allow love to flow through me, then I believe this is helping me in my spiritual life grow closer to God.

I can only say that Jesus must not have needed psychedelics to stay focused on what's most important. But I find it helpful to be brought back along the right path every now and then, as I have a natural tendency to stray away.

<blockquote data-quote="jaskop" data-source="post: 3523032" data-attributes="member: 13524">That is certainly part of it. I have found that mushrooms seem to bring about a more loving state within me. I cannot explain it, but I feel at peace with myself and with others while on mushrooms, and even after the trip. It is as if the mushrooms allow me to reset to my core self, and love finds a natural avenue in that state.Maybe he didn&#039;t think it was the path for everyone. I don&#039;t know. But I&#039;m sure you wouldn&#039;t recommend DMT to everyone you know, even if you find it good for yourself. This is just speculation though. If psychedelics were the only way, then I would think it may have been mentioned. I also think music can serve spiritual purposes, but Jesus never spoke of music. He may have said some things to some people, but that doesn&#039;t mean it should apply to all. He told the rich young ruler to see his possessions, because his attachment to his possessions was his main impediment. Perhaps with another person, just giving up coffee would sufficient. That&#039;s probably a bad example, but I think you get my point. I don&#039;t think all christians are meant to be naked bums walking around castrated. If the bible told me the only path to God was by being a castrated and naked bum, I would certainly question it&#039;s validity.I use caffeine to study my bible, it helps me concentrate, but I don&#039;t think that Jesus had to give the approval beforehand to use caffeine when reading. I find no inconsistency. Similarly with psychedelics. When I am reflecting on my life and trying to figure out what is a good path to take, sometimes I find psychedelics to help in this regard. It allows me to focus on what is important to me. So if that is God, then it allows me to focus on God. In addition, the bible says that God is love. So if mushrooms allow me to love more effectively, or alternatively, if they allow love to flow through me, then I believe this is helping me in my spiritual life grow closer to God. I can only say that Jesus must not have needed psychedelics to stay focused on what&#039;s most important. But I find it helpful to be brought back along the right path every now and then, as I have a natural tendency to stray away.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jaskop, post: 3523032, member: 13524"] That is certainly part of it. I have found that mushrooms seem to bring about a more loving state within me. I cannot explain it, but I feel at peace with myself and with others while on mushrooms, and even after the trip. It is as if the mushrooms allow me to reset to my core self, and love finds a natural avenue in that state. Maybe he didn't think it was the path for everyone. I don't know. But I'm sure you wouldn't recommend DMT to everyone you know, even if you find it good for yourself. This is just speculation though. If psychedelics were the only way, then I would think it may have been mentioned. I also think music can serve spiritual purposes, but Jesus never spoke of music. He may have said some things to some people, but that doesn't mean it should apply to all. He told the rich young ruler to see his possessions, because his attachment to his possessions was his main impediment. Perhaps with another person, just giving up coffee would sufficient. That's probably a bad example, but I think you get my point. I don't think all christians are meant to be naked bums walking around castrated. If the bible told me the only path to God was by being a castrated and naked bum, I would certainly question it's validity. I use caffeine to study my bible, it helps me concentrate, but I don't think that Jesus had to give the approval beforehand to use caffeine when reading. I find no inconsistency. Similarly with psychedelics. When I am reflecting on my life and trying to figure out what is a good path to take, sometimes I find psychedelics to help in this regard. It allows me to focus on what is important to me. So if that is God, then it allows me to focus on God. In addition, the bible says that God is love. So if mushrooms allow me to love more effectively, or alternatively, if they allow love to flow through me, then I believe this is helping me in my spiritual life grow closer to God. I can only say that Jesus must not have needed psychedelics to stay focused on what's most important. But I find it helpful to be brought back along the right path every now and then, as I have a natural tendency to stray away. [/QUOTE]