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A crash course in rabbit hole physics...

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Strangeling

Strangeling

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Namaste Nexians,

If I may, I would like to explain the long and winding road that has brought me to your door step. I have had a decent amount of experience with classic entheogens such as mushrooms and acid, more acid then mushrooms actually. Also in my life thus far I have only smoked the spice 3 times. The first 2 times seemed like just a taste, just scratching the surface. The third time I paid special attention to set and setting as well as having enough spice to gaurantee an experience, after the 3rd or 4th inhilation my whole reality began to vibrate and my visual field was altered so rapidly I was barely able to cope. A strange hum filled my conciousness as my eyes closed...

and then as suddenly as it came it was gone.

Later I would equate this experience to 'being brought to the door, but not entering'. I thought if this was the extent of the DMT experience then I dont think I want to go any further. And until the end of summer 2011 I didn't, but then I was given an oportunity to try two Ayahuasca analogs. Psychotria viridis + syrian rue and the next day MHRB + syrian rue.

The first attempt 12g of chacruna and 8g of rue was boiled together for 3hrs and produced a calming sedative effect...but little more. Again it was disappointing, I had some experience with the rue before hand had an idea of what an MAOI can do (I made a 10g rue tea and dropped acid...THIS WAS A BAD IDEA DO NOT ATTEMPT, ALMOST DIED!!!). So I knew it wasn't the MAO inhibition in question, but the DMT content in the leaves.

So the next day I was determined to push it as far as I could. I decided to put the syrian rue into 8 one gram capsules and brew 10g of MHRB into one cup, I THOUGHT:roll: I had done enough research, the resulting trip is one of the reasons why I am hear at nexus...

I dont even know how long it had been since I had swallowed the capsules and drank the brew, all I knew was rapture and vomit. I shed every ounce of flesh, senses, reason, I shot backwards, far back. Through history, through time, Time? I felt the suffering, joy, ecstasy all in the same instant. I wept, my body wept, my soul shrieked...

And when my sitter asked what was wrong...All I could say was 'I asked for this...why am I so stupid...why did I asked for this' and continued weeping.

Hours passed, slowly I learned, I learned about respect and compassion.One I had to earn and one I had to cultivate. As I came back to my self I felt the brew/spirit leave me, taking with it most of the wonderful wisdom it bestowed on me to fortify me for the experience. Nearest I could figure I had'nt earned those gifts yet. But I was not empty, I was filled to the brim with gratitude. Thank You!

Ever since I had been working with the brew off and on for about six months now, I found myself alienating most of my friends who weren't really keen on pushing the boundaries of their perception. I dont want to burden them with my wacky ideas, but I found more and more the need to share these concepts. And after a particularly heavy experience in January (after which I stop all exploration:( ) I have been lurking in the forums here taking in more info(up till recently I thought 10g of MHRB was in the medium range:roll: ) in order to prevent such heavy experiences if I decide to explore again.

Thanks for being there.
 
LOL... awesome.

You went really big there. Do you know how long in clock time you were in hyperspace on that dose? Also, how long did it feel like hyperspace?

What range have you been dosing MHRB? Prepped with or without acid?

Would love to hear all about the heavy experience in january when you have the time.

Please share your "wacky" ideas and concepts, sharing these is why I signed up here a few days ago.
 
Sounds like you really went head first into the rabbit hole, I can relate with my introduction into psychedelics with psilocybin and lsd. It's honestly made me approach DMT much more cautiously. Anyway, welcome to the Nexus, it's a great place to soak up the good vibes for further explorations!
 
Wow, sounds like quite a bumpy entry into the DMT world.

One thing stands out for me.

"I found myself alienating most of my friends who weren't really keen on pushing the boundaries of their perception."

Are you sure that's wise? I tend to think (or hope) that a beneficial experience should ultimately connect you to your own life, not turn you away from it. It can be tempting to ramble on about the experience even to people who aren't interested in it, simply because it's so awe-inspiring, but those who don't care might hear it as crazy talk. It doesn't mean they're not your friends, just that they don't share that particular thing with you.
 
@yogi

Yeah, went real big unfortunately, after the disapointing experiences I just wanted to genuinely feel the furthest reaches that the brew could take me, I thought that with that dosage it would be comparable to 2-4g of P. Cubensis. You know body vibe and light OEV and CEV distortions.
It was clear in the early stages, after the MHRB was drank(sludge and all) and before the purge, that I was in for difficult night, I realised I wasn't even feeling the full effects yet and I had already surpassed the peak of my previous 6g P. cubensis experience.

My GF, who was sitting for me at the time said I was under pretty heavy for about 6hrs and was able to conevrse at around the 7th-8th hour, fully down by 9th-10th hour. Hard to say how long it felt, I would say eons, but thats an exaggeration.

How I prepared the MHRB for that trip was boiling it for 2hrs, stirred and drank. Since then I've been dosing it around the same range 8-10g, but preparing it differently. Now I do a 3 hour boil the first day, leaving it overnight in a mason jar so the gunk settles at the bottom. Bring out a second pot for the next day, seperate the liquid from the gunk, throw the gunk into the first pot with water boil like the first day. Then put the liquid in the second pot and simmer just before the the boiling point. I do this for 3-5 days adding the liquid from the first pot to the second and reboiling the gunk. So every night I end up with 2 mason jars one with dark but clear burgandy red liquid and the other with half burgandy liquid half gunk. I know I finished the brew when the liquid in the second jar above the gunk becomes a milky brown and has no taste. Then I take just the liquid jar reducing it so that 8-10g equals one shot glass, this results in less liquid to swallow and purge, plus almost no sediment Its a long process I know but its worth it, I brew 50g at a time and save it. Oh and I dont acidify the water just straight boil.

My trip in January resulted from drinking 2 shot glasses...:roll:

@Shayku

I did ramble on alot about it. For a while it was all I could talk about, then I realized that I sounded like I'd gone over the edge. So I sorta took a step back, looked at it from their point of view and decided to tone down the rant. Kinda goes back to the lesson the brew was trying to teach me that first time about Compassion and Respect. Still working on it, lol.:)
 
Thanks for sharing your brewing method. I will be brewing all at once and it helped clarify how to do this.

I can relate to the going over the edge thing, I've had some incredibly unusual things happen to me over the last 7yrs and have wanted to tell people about them, but I'd start going in that direction or dancing around the topic, but I just wouldn't go through with it. Eventually I plan to post about these things here and am not expecting anyone to take me at my word even though it's the truth, but at least here I can say what I've experienced with no social repercussions.
 
Yeah that's one of the reasons I joined this forum otherwise I'd still be lurking...And I just pulled my remaining brew out of storage and I wrote that it was clear dark red, but in fact looking at it now its not exactly clear. Just clarifying, let me know how yours turns out.
 
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