The single time SWIM tried nutmeg powder, it did NOTHING. I don’t remember the dose, but it was a lot. SWIM thought, if it doesn’t work at such a large dose, forget it, it’s not worth ingesting more. I like the taste of nutmeg, but the massive amount of power SWIM ingested was unpleasant, and he got nothing out of it, so he gave up on it thinking nutmeg being psychedelic was just another myth. That was a long time ago when SWIM was a teenager. The nutmeg powder used was dry, old, and probably pretty much inactive because of that.
From what others have said, nutmeg oil is more consistent in potency and more psychedelic then the nuts. In all of the reports I’ve read, most said they preferred the effects of the oil over the effects of the nuts, and none said they preferred the nuts. I didn’t read anything about either one being more “stoning” though. Most say the nuts are more toxic, with more side effects.
The definition of “stoned” is loosely used by many to describe a lot of things. For me it means the effects of marijuana specifically. I keep reading things like “it felt like a mix of pot and ecstasy”. This pops up a lot. Many reports say it made them feel “stoned” similar to marijuana. In SWIM’s experience this was not the case. There was nothing remotely similar to marijuana in the experience.
Now I have read that some batches of nutmeg are more “stoning” and others are more “LSD-like”, and others are more toxic feeling.
Like any plant matter, nutmeg’s compounds are going to vary to a certain degree. My belief is that the LSD-like effect is from the elemicin. The “stoning” effect is from the myrcene mixed with the myristicin, and the toxic feelings are from the other compounds.
Myrcene is a potent sedative, and is slightly psychoactive on its own. Myrcene is used to potentiate the effects of THC. I’m betting if the nutmeg is high in myrcene and myristicin, you’ll probably get the “stoned” feeling a lot of reports talk about.
Supposedly elemicin is extremely heat stable and easily survives the steam distillation process, so it’s possible that nutmeg nuts contain more myrcene and myristicin than the oil does. That could help explain why the oil is often said to be more psychedelic than the nuts.