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I get the impression that the effects of nutmeg itself are very different for each person and with each batch of nutmeg.

When i was a kid, i experimented a lot with it.
I found the effects somewhat simmilar to cannabis, or at least more in the direction of cannabis than of LSD or shrooms.

The main difference with cannabis for me, was the slight feeling as if you're floating, that i always got from it.

I never had visual effects like with the typical hallucinogens. The visual effects where more like i get from a high dose of oral cannabis wich is: objects seem to 'breathe' or to vibrate at a low frequency. Oral cannabis also gives me stroboscope-like vision.
These are about the same visual effects i got from nutmeg.

On most occasions nutmeg gave me a sedated feeling, but on some it actually gave a slight sense of stimulation.
I think that besides the batch of nutmeg, there may have been other factors in play, like circumstances: i once took nutmeg before i went to a party for instance, and i felt very stimulated at that time. Maybe the environmental factors triggered the stimulating effects of it more than the sedating effects then.

I never considered nutmeg itself as a high quality psychedelic. maybe the oil is different, but i think that this is only the case with low doses.

All of the psychedelic's i consider the high-quality ones, are able to give real mystical, spiritual, life-changing experiences.

Based on my experience with nutmeg i find it hard to believe that nutmeg oil can truly compete in this regard with mescalin, shrooms, LSD or even a high dose of oral cannabis. I now that it can be possible based on all you say on the ration between the different compounds in it.

But since these compounds are mostly simmilar with MDMA and the other MDxx's, i have the impression that the effects of them never will go beyond a certain level.

A low dose of mescaline is very simmilar to a low dose of MDMA, but in higher doses mescaline can get you to places that can never be reached by MDMA, MDEA or MDA.

I suspect that this will not be much different with nutmeg oil.

I actually liked XTC, the times i used it. But i consider it an inferiour substance even to LSD or a high dose of oral cannabis, let alone ayahuasca, mescaline, shrooms or DMT.

I also would be carefull with the side-effects of these substances. It could very well be that like with frequent use of cannabis, or more apropriate MDA or MDMA, it eventually drains you.

<blockquote data-quote="polytrip" data-source="post: 3364992" data-attributes="member: 721">I get the impression that the effects of nutmeg itself are very different for each person and with each batch of nutmeg.When i was a kid, i experimented a lot with it. I found the effects somewhat simmilar to cannabis, or at least more in the direction of cannabis than of LSD or shrooms.The main difference with cannabis for me, was the slight feeling as if you&#039;re floating, that i always got from it.I never had visual effects like with the typical hallucinogens. The visual effects where more like i get from a high dose of oral cannabis wich is: objects seem to &#039;breathe&#039; or to vibrate at a low frequency. Oral cannabis also gives me stroboscope-like vision. These are about the same visual effects i got from nutmeg.On most occasions nutmeg gave me a sedated feeling, but on some it actually gave a slight sense of stimulation. I think that besides the batch of nutmeg, there may have been other factors in play, like circumstances: i once took nutmeg before i went to a party for instance, and i felt very stimulated at that time. Maybe the environmental factors triggered the stimulating effects of it more than the sedating effects then.I never considered nutmeg itself as a high quality psychedelic. maybe the oil is different, but i think that this is only the case with low doses.All of the psychedelic&#039;s i consider the high-quality ones, are able to give real mystical, spiritual, life-changing experiences. Based on my experience with nutmeg i find it hard to believe that nutmeg oil can truly compete in this regard with mescalin, shrooms, LSD or even a high dose of oral cannabis. I now that it can be possible based on all you say on the ration between the different compounds in it. But since these compounds are mostly simmilar with MDMA and the other MDxx&#039;s, i have the impression that the effects of them never will go beyond a certain level.A low dose of mescaline is very simmilar to a low dose of MDMA, but in higher doses mescaline can get you to places that can never be reached by MDMA, MDEA or MDA.I suspect that this will not be much different with nutmeg oil.I actually liked XTC, the times i used it. But i consider it an inferiour substance even to LSD or a high dose of oral cannabis, let alone ayahuasca, mescaline, shrooms or DMT.I also would be carefull with the side-effects of these substances. It could very well be that like with frequent use of cannabis, or more apropriate MDA or MDMA, it eventually drains you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="polytrip, post: 3364992, member: 721"] I get the impression that the effects of nutmeg itself are very different for each person and with each batch of nutmeg. When i was a kid, i experimented a lot with it. I found the effects somewhat simmilar to cannabis, or at least more in the direction of cannabis than of LSD or shrooms. The main difference with cannabis for me, was the slight feeling as if you're floating, that i always got from it. I never had visual effects like with the typical hallucinogens. The visual effects where more like i get from a high dose of oral cannabis wich is: objects seem to 'breathe' or to vibrate at a low frequency. Oral cannabis also gives me stroboscope-like vision. These are about the same visual effects i got from nutmeg. On most occasions nutmeg gave me a sedated feeling, but on some it actually gave a slight sense of stimulation. I think that besides the batch of nutmeg, there may have been other factors in play, like circumstances: i once took nutmeg before i went to a party for instance, and i felt very stimulated at that time. Maybe the environmental factors triggered the stimulating effects of it more than the sedating effects then. I never considered nutmeg itself as a high quality psychedelic. maybe the oil is different, but i think that this is only the case with low doses. All of the psychedelic's i consider the high-quality ones, are able to give real mystical, spiritual, life-changing experiences. Based on my experience with nutmeg i find it hard to believe that nutmeg oil can truly compete in this regard with mescalin, shrooms, LSD or even a high dose of oral cannabis. I now that it can be possible based on all you say on the ration between the different compounds in it. But since these compounds are mostly simmilar with MDMA and the other MDxx's, i have the impression that the effects of them never will go beyond a certain level. A low dose of mescaline is very simmilar to a low dose of MDMA, but in higher doses mescaline can get you to places that can never be reached by MDMA, MDEA or MDA. I suspect that this will not be much different with nutmeg oil. I actually liked XTC, the times i used it. But i consider it an inferiour substance even to LSD or a high dose of oral cannabis, let alone ayahuasca, mescaline, shrooms or DMT. I also would be carefull with the side-effects of these substances. It could very well be that like with frequent use of cannabis, or more apropriate MDA or MDMA, it eventually drains you. [/QUOTE]