Hi everyone, I'm a total noob at this and I apologize in advance for that. But i'll keep it simple. I read the SWIM write up on the acacia confusa root bark extraction. It was great write up and they were fairly clear in my opinion, but as I scrolled down the page, tons of controversy arose regarding their tek. So naturally, I don't want to go cleaning out my wallet for nothing so I started doing more reading. Having gone through a few posts here and then did more reading on other sites and now I'm just in a state of utter turmoil because no matter where I look someone is having trouble with the final results. Can someone please educate me. This will be my first experiment so of course i'm leaving room for error but i don't want to end up with bunk. Please point me in the right direction folks. Thank you all in advance and once again I apologize for being a noob.
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Acacia extract help
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Im no expert on Acacia Confusa extraction but ive done the [Acid Base tec] a couple times and cant seem to get crystals yet.. but very active amber waxy goo..
Many reports claim the waxy amber stuff is just as effective as crystals..
Hope this helps..
Many reports claim the waxy amber stuff is just as effective as crystals..
Hope this helps..
mrdandman said:
The Acid Base method i used was posted by [Thick Light AB extraction using White vinegar boils..LYE...and Napatha...
Im unable to get crystals but it may be because i did not [De fat the product]..
Anyway the amber wax ..is just as active as the fancy crystals..
which are just goo in designers cloths:grin:
The type of Acacia is quite important in this regard. However, re-crystalising the finished substance will yield nice crystals. DMT is DMT from wherever it comes from. Some Acacias are much easier than others and some have very consistant yields. Accuminata is my source and I use diluted white vinegar as the acid and NaOH (with a pinch of salt) as the base.mrdandman said:
Where you are located will make a huge difference to what plants you can cultivate/extract from.
The Acacia threads are the most rich and reliable source of info yet to be compiled on this planet... there are heaps of tek variations and some great minds that will help you from there :thumb_up: I am sure.
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Also keep in mind that this isn't exact science and there is wiggle room with stuff. Adding a little more vinegar in your acid step for instance won't hurt. You then might just add more lye to compensate... if you have a PH meter (I got one for 15 to the door online) it will help you go with confidence (you want your acid boils at around PH4 and your Base /lye phase between PH12-13.
Remember that things don't have to be perfect to the gram. Try a 50g test run to get the feel of the steps and then go for it. At some point, you will just have to dive in!
But as starway6 mentioned, Thick Lights and Cyb's tek have been producing well.
In the end all the A/B teks are all pretty much the same and follow the same principals.
Good luck friend!
Remember that things don't have to be perfect to the gram. Try a 50g test run to get the feel of the steps and then go for it. At some point, you will just have to dive in!
But as starway6 mentioned, Thick Lights and Cyb's tek have been producing well.
In the end all the A/B teks are all pretty much the same and follow the same principals.
Good luck friend!
mrdandman said:
I'm sorry I should have posted the link in the original post.
Also if anyone thinks thats^ a good first time tek, please let me know. All criticism is welcome. Thanks folks!
Hey smokerx, that does seem nice and straight to the point, could the same tek be used with acacia confusa root bark? Feel free to correct me, but aren't there a few extra alkaloids in the acacia that have to be removed with some lye?
ermahgerd said:
I have never tried to extract from AC buy I think it will work. You can always try it on small amount of AC.
Check AC extraction thread on this forum before you start. Make sure you know 100% what you are doing before you start.
You wouldn't happen to have a link would you? Cause I can't find any full on write ups here. Although I probably am not looking in the right place. I found all the various extraction teks in the wiki section but they all seem to be dealing with MH
ermahgerd said:
Its not about luck its about knowledge
As I said make sure you know exactly every step of the tek and it is also very good to know how does the extraction work. This will prevent you from making any stupid mistake and coming back here crying that something did not go well
So good luck or good knowledge :thumb_up:
Ya that's why I'm not doing anything till Friday. Just gonna read read and then read some more. Study the hell out of the tek. I've got my basic chemistry grasped fairly well so I do know "what's going on" during the process. The only thing that was throwing me off is that one tek can be done in so many ways. One person skips a step another person adds a step. One guy wants to rinse his xtals with one chemical, another guy comes in rashes on the guy and says, no this is how you do it. This is my first experiment. I just wanted a simple tek with minimal controversy and voila, smoker, you provided just that. Thanks again. I'll post pics in probably a week and a half.
Alright so i managed to get very small amount of spice, and a fair amount of the goo everyone else gets which i guess is nmt. only did one pull as this was just a trial run, the top pic is before it dried up. however, i smoked roughly 30 mg's and could not break through, the amount i did experience was amazing. everyone keeps talking about ACRB varying in quality depending on seasons and source, so now that i'm pretty comfortable i think i'll do larger extract and try a different source
