Acetates of analogues of dmt? (MHRB)

[FractAlien]

DMT analogs (n-oxide, 5-meO, 5-OH) also salt as acetates, or only fumaric acid is able to salt full spectrum?

If not, is there any other acid capable of salting the full spectrum? Phosphoric acid?

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[downwardsfromzero]

Your question doesn't exactly make much sense.

Any protic acid should be capable of protonating the tertiary amine group of these indolealkylamines (except the N-oxide). Boric acid would be less capable, hydrochloric rather more capable.

Full spectrum of what? From what source? Why? What are you really trying to achieve or understand?

 

[FractAlien]

In a way you answered my question.

I am currently extracting dmt fb with naphtha from mimosa hostilis. I know that depending on the quality of the material, a part turns n-oxide, and I would not want to leave anything behind.

but also my interest in analogs of dmt (5-Me and bufotenin) has been growing lately. Where I am has quite yopo, and I stand behind good natural sources of 5-Meo (virola theiodora?).

returning the question, if the ac. acetic acid can not salt the dmt n-oxide, how could it recover it? Evaporating is expensive ...

thanks for the answer.
I'm sorry for my english. It is not my native language ...

 

[endlessness]

There is no evidence n-oxide forms in mimosa or acacia confusa. My personal experience also seema to imply DMT natural salt form is very stable against oxidation and even after years of less-than-ideal atorage conditions show no signs of oxidation. Just extract as normal and you shpuld be fine


As for 5-meo-dmt natural sources, still nothing reliable has been found so far. Analysis show that Vrola t. reain does contain good amounts but its not easy to find it. Yopo rarely if ever contains significant 5meo content, its mostly bufotenine (which ime is annoying to extract, tastes aweful and isnt pleasant but maybe your experience is different). One close relative to yopo, Anadenanthera falcata, has been tested to contain great 5 meo content but sometimes its mostly bufo too, including one batch i tested.

Good luck and post back any results, good or bad