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Acetone Wash destroyed 1.4g DMT

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Plasmod3smata

Justin Thyme
Hello!

My friends cat has extracted and used DMT several times before but today she encountered something very sad. :(

She had about 1.4g of near-white slightly-yellow freshly dried DMT. She poured about 25ml of ice-cold acetone (in the freezer for 6+ hours) over it and it all dissolved it and in a matter of seconds all fell through and she lost the entire batch...

Anyone have a good guess at why this happened? Maybe too much acetone?
 
Acetone? Please tell me you didn't throw the acetone away:( Dmt freebase is soluble in acetone.I'm guessing English isn't your first language, did you mistake an ammonia wash for acetone? If you kept your liquid- never throw anything away until you're totally done- then you can just evaporate the acetone and your product will be there:)
 
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Man... she is a complete and total ass-clown... :shock:

Your signature rings true to as we speak!! :lol:

She has done several extractions before... all with with proper AMMONIA wash... but it has been about a year since and she, like some kinda neo-hippie IDIOT, got acetone instead of ammonia.

Even after this fiasco she re-read a few things to make sure she got the amounts right, completely overlooking the fact it was saying AMMONIA and not acetone...

...and no she didn't save the runoff... it was going to go into a collection plate that she realized was dirty and decided to just not save it b/c when she's done it before she never got anything out of the ammonia runoff...

MULTIPLE LESSONS LEARNED!

It was the saddest thing I've ever seen, I literally watched it dissolve right in front of my eyes and disappear in the matter of seconds all down the sink.

What a first post... I hope to contribute more than idiotic questions in the near future...

Thanks for pointing out her obvious oversight and inability to follow simple directions, hahaha.
 
Thanks... It could be worse... there is still some sweet second-pull action left for use until the next time...

Speaking of wish, this kitty's lovely significant other didn't like how sad this made the kitty and offered to buy another lb of root bark to replace the sadness! yay!

Plus the kitty herself has ordered 2 more lbs, each one from a different source; and this new lb from the other will be bought from a third in-country vendor.

Hopefully the kitty cat will post side-by-side yield results from each vendor! w00t! Gotta make up for such an undignified first post...

Hopefully many acetone-free spice dreams await this kitty and her other!
 
that sucks you tossed it. You could have easily gotten it back out of the acetone by simply evaporating it, then starting over. even with a dirty dish, that dirt can be removed.


Just remember kiddies, follow your teks and pay attention to what you are doing!
 
Noman said:
Bunk bark.

This extraction kitty I know has always used them and has never achieved quite the yield that one might expect from such extractions...

It will be nice to be checking out these difference sources.

In fact, I may get the kitty to get some Acacia obtusifolia bark instead as the third batch just to test it out in comparison. Assuming the only supplier she knows gets it back in stock some time soon...

Otherwise she may just have to suck it up and do an over-seas order ;)
 
Tell me more about better MHRB suppliers, because this is my third time ordering from .... (first one I got a cactus ;))

How does a kilo with 2nd day shipping for $135 sound(megadiscount)? And where could I get GOOD quality product for a comparable price?

...need more naphtha...
 
syntroniks said:
Tell me more about better MHRB suppliers

This forum has a great suppliers thread stickied.


My friends kitty has ordered MHRB about 4-5 times through a popular Kansas vendor and always got right about average or (usually) below average results from an extraction.

IMO, I wouldn't spend money on normal bark; I would drop the extra few bucks for the purple-pink inner root bark. Seems to be more bang for the buck but not I nor the kitty have personally compared the regular with the inner bark. Has anyone done this comparison?

In terms of inexpensive standard shipping, if you are already dropping a fair amount on a couple lbs of some bark, whats an extra $15 or so to try ordering from multiple recommended vendors? At least to find a good supply to quickly stock up on... as I'm sure the quality varies batch to batch. You also get an in-expensive test run of their store and customer service to find someone you like.

In terms of products carried + website + service + others recommendations, the kitty told me she likes one of the newer Florida-based vendors better. The kitty's package was sent out on the same day it was ordered and the store owner replied to a personal email inquiry very swiftly! The quality will be determined in the next week or so as soon as kitty gets in her package and gets to work!
 
would have been less trouble to simply re-crystalize instead of washing with ammonia.with an ammonia wash you are losing a good 10% of your precious spice.O yeah by the way notice all those dots in previous posts.Try not to mention vendors in the futur thank you.
 
Big Inhale said:
Thats why washing is POINTLESS yet another thread about how the spice was lost from washing something should be done about this info

No, that's why washing with acetone is a MISTAKE, an ammonia wash, done properly, results in sparkly white looks like table salt alks and a puddle of ammonia that when evaped leaves some yellow chalky shit without a whiff of indole smell and that burns and smokes instead of vaporizes.
That said, so many people have so much trouble doing an ammonia wash, I'm going to remove it from my tek and replace it with a polar wash of the NP and a stronger recomendation to recrystalize.
 
Noman said:
Big Inhale said:
Thats why washing is POINTLESS yet another thread about how the spice was lost from washing something should be done about this info

No, that's why washing with acetone is a MISTAKE, an ammonia wash, done properly, results in sparkly white looks like table salt alks and a puddle of ammonia that when evaped leaves some yellow chalky shit without a whiff of indole smell and that burns and smokes instead of vaporizes.
That said, so many people have so much trouble doing an ammonia wash, I'm going to remove it from my tek and replace it with a polar wash of the NP and a stronger recomendation to recrystalize.

I see. So RC (let's make an acronym) is better when done right than ammonia/polar wash when done right?

How is that? Because less spice is lost?
 
DrParadox said:
Why are people losing product in the amonia wash? Chemically what is going on?
I dont see how people can know for sure they are losing ANY spice.

How can you figure, from just pouring some liquid through your shit, how much dmt is lost versus how much impurities and other shit that's NOT dmt. What's the process for measuring this? People keep saying they are losing 5%, or 10% of their dmt, but how do they know what they are losing isn't mostly impurities? perhaps they aren't losing any dmt at all.
 
get dirty sample, crystal by ultra freezing, weigh, redissolve, evap, wash + weigh.


Way too many steps to be accurate. I think there are few impurties,so a totall mass loss of %10 or less sounds ok...
 
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