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ACTA - Internet Monitoring Agreement

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Read up about it here:

It provides for criminalization of copyright infringement, granting law enforcement the powers to perform criminal investigation, arrests and pursue criminal citations or prosecution of suspects who MAY have infringed on copyright
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Guilty until proven innocent?

^link to the leaked document

If it passes, it makes the internet provider responsible for all internet piracy caused by it's users, and allows for legal monitoring of all data. If you are accused of Piracy three times, your internet is turned off for good. Flick of a switch; gone. You don't get a trail or a judge to state your case to prove you weren't doing otherwise.

Hurray.... ... .. .
 
Look at this a different way and this could be considered good news.
Conditions will always get worse before they get better when those in power are threatened.
The more desperate these laws get, the greater chance more people will wake up to the abrsurdity of the situation.

Full steam ahead for illogicality and destruction is inevitable.
 
I have a buddy who's internet what cut off for 3months cuz his ISP said his ip address was downloading questionable content. He was downloading movies illegally. He finally convinced them it was his wireless router being unsecured and they reactivated his account. This was in las vegas, nevada usa
 
I also know someone who claimed it was due to an unprotected network and he got away with it. Time warner, other than being a horriblie ISP, has recently improved in my eyes by downright refusing to let out any information on any users.
 
Eden said:
Look at this a different way and this could be considered good news.
Conditions will always get worse before they get better when those in power are threatened.
The more desperate these laws get, the greater chance more people will wake up to the abrsurdity of the situation.

Full steam ahead for illogicality and destruction is inevitable.
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Not the USA, the people have no voice left. Left or Right, Dem or Repub, the lawmakers, the movers and shakers, all end up f'ing the public on a daily basis.

No, people won't start complaining until it is way too late.

Think of Bush, the US people, despite my best efforts, elected this baboon TWICE! Even after we learned he probably has water brain from too much drinking and was a failure at everything.

Let's hope it gets stamped out, or at least revised.

Corporations always win out over the citizens in the good ole USofA
 
Unless the current situation changes, the RIAA and other corporation will continue to hold power. There is no chance of them backing down, so for progress to be made, they will have to fail. Fighting them on their own terms is a slow losing battle. I agree, it would be horrible if this passes. I only hope they continue to propose such ridiculous guidlines.

And just because failures have happened in the past does not mean failing is all that will ever occur. Pessimism surely isn't the answer. Have some hope. I would like to think good things are to come.
 
The problem with the internet, as far as i can see, is that there's no good system to pay for any content you want to watch or listen to.
There are ways to pay for content, but they're all way too complicated and probably too expensive.

I can see how free information is a serious problem. Offering good quality content, whether it's art, science or journalism, is expensive.
 
Who want's their shitty movies and pop records anyway. Fuck em. Plastic people.
Free media for free people.
In truth tho... what will this mean for people that make mixes and upload them. Free mix tapes advertised as such, downloading pdf's of information.
journals... how on earth will they enforce this without stepping on peoples toe's.

ACTA April 2010 Draft.

There on about border searches of laptops and ipods, on the spot fines and destroying devices, and yet it also states that it has been designed not to affect the consumer. There is a distinct confusion between what a consumer is here.
Glad to the the European customs folk have flat out stated they will not be searching ipods and laptops, because they have enough trouble with drugs and people trafficking.

This is going to blow up in there faces.
They will never keep onto of pirating. Ever. It simply makes the competition smarter and more resourceful.
Fools.

Don't gain the world and lose your soul, wisdom is better than silver or gold.
 
Even if it passes by an astonishing number, it will obviously be challenged in court before it ever goes into effect since it is so blatantly against the constitution; but hey, who even follows that old piece of paper any more? ...
 
I am sorry, but this is pure ludicrous. No government has the amount of time or resources needed to enforce such a law. I am not sure I know of many people these days who gets all of their music legitimately. As sad as it is, piracy is here to stay and I don't think will ever be outlawed.

I think that governments do not understand how much power people on the internet have and how difficuilt it is to enforce the law on the internet.

If you want to see the amazing power that internet users have, read this link about: 4Chan
 
I know 4chan better than most people could ever imagine, or would ever want to imagine.

State of the Mind said:
No government has the amount of time or resources needed to enforce such a law
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Correction, no one government has the amount of time or resources...

This isn't just one government, this is an act to bring all governments, European and American, together to fight as one against the people.

Although, "The European Parliament passed an anti-ACTA resolution" Obama is still all for it.

If on the slim chance it does pass, it will be challenged in the courts and it will lose based on our constitution.


Freedom is only available for the captive. Freedom then in this sense, is merely another product for you to own.
 
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