^..am glad and thankful Elpo..

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with regards to entheogens and this topic

...it's the same observing consciousness whether under the effects of DMT, or completely 'straight'..

that said, i do think the insights in the mind with entheogens can allow perspective and understanding of some of the more esoteric aspects of the Vedas (& their philosophy)

but, as with meditation, going beyond mind permits the direct experience..

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