..from an experiential perspective, the 'bliss' of the 'true nature' of reality..from the philosophical position of Advaita Vedanta, as i understand it ..

..in the Buddhist philosophical premise, all things are interdependent (dependent origin)..the mental premise of 'universe' or multi-verse, of space, or of omniscience relies on the notion of interdependence or rather interconnectivity..even if, as buddhism suggests, everything is dependent on everything else for existence there is (even if infinite)  the whole..the only singular..absolute infinity..obviously this can't be experienced by linear or ordinary sensory (visual etc) means..in being everything, by inter relation, it has no form..it's beyond quantum bits..they exist from it.. it's sub-quantum..

in advaita awareness is existence..it's the means by which existence is known to exist..therefore advaita Vedanta describes the all experienced, experiencers, and experiencing itself, together as the existor.. That..

but experientially it's beyond description.. light or void or Om or Silence guide close to it..but it's beyond ..

..the conscious experience of completeness purely being is beyond the word, but it is like bliss..

why there are any appearances of things, beings and places is a more difficult aspect in advaitan philosophy..this is  Maya..who advaitans quietly call 'the goddess'..

while it is true that there is just existence (of all)..within it is the potential..the most basic potential power is change..

via the movement of time (Kala)..the wave..Maya manifests as the three Gunas..activity, inactivity and non-activity ..Maya creates illusion..other

..Maya is said to neither exist nor not exist..but Brahman is said to be existence..is Maya therefore the impossible..some thing else?

monoist Shaktas would say this makes Adi Shakti (pure energy/primordial) the basis for consciousness..the womb..the mother..beginningless..Brahmavidya..

advaitans..say Ma and Brahman are one,..like wave & potential..beyond either attribute..

That ( or 'It' )

..which no sensory description can pinpoint, and is the same in all states of consciousness..

ordinary or non-ordinary..

..anyway, freedom from suffering is the point..by whichever way works..the Upanishads are chanted incidentally..thanks all contributions to the thread..

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