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Amanita Muscaria Changa

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Eliyahu

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Ahoy There!

I have a humble suggestion for all the Changa smokers..

I have been sailing the seas of hyperspace by using sun dried Amanita as an admixture to DMT..

It works very well when used in small amounts to majorly boost either smoked DMT and Ayahuasca.

Although I have not smoked DMT and Amanita yet together at the exact same time. (5-15 minute between) ....It seems like this mushroom is a prime candidate for Changa use....
Seems like it would blend well with other changa herbs.

Here is a DMT/Amanita experience I recently posted for reference.

Amanita Muscaria & Smoked DMT - an unforgettable ride - DMT Experiences - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus
 
the skin of the cap smolders even when dry, and tastes like peanut butter. it might be best to keep it oral, but it might be best to dose oral dmt aswell. perhaps dmt+ amanita will yield new effects without maoi, with maoi im unsure of the potential contraindication between muscimol and harmalas
 
Purges...thanks for adding that link :)

The only thing is...while there were some accounts of Amanita use in large doses, the nexians who chimed in on that thread did not seem to have any direct experience with smoking DMT and Amanita together, where as I can tell you first hand that it was seriously amazing.


I took this information from the thread you linked..

knowledge wrote (presumably quoted from wikapedia):

Amanita muscaria contains a number of biologically active agents, at least two of which, muscimol and ibotenic acid, are known to be psychoactive. A toxic dose in adults is approximately 6 mg muscimol or 30 to 60 mg ibotenic acid;[50][51] this is typically about the amount found in one cap of Amanita muscaria.[52] However, the amount and ratio of chemical compounds per mushroom varies widely from region to region and season to season, which further confuses the issue. Spring and summer mushrooms have been reported to contain up to 10 times as much ibotenic acid and muscimol compared to autumn fruitings.[46]

A fatal dose has been calculated at approximately 15 caps.[53] Deaths from A. muscaria have been reported in historical journal articles and newspaper reports;[54][55][56] however, with modern medical treatment a fatal outcome would be extremely rare.[57] Many older books mistakenly list it as deadly, giving the impression that it is far more toxic than it really is.[58] The North American Mycological Association has stated there are no reliably documented fatalities in the past 100 years.[59] The vast majority (90% or more) of mushroom poisoning deaths are from having eaten either the greenish to yellowish death cap (A. phalloides) or one of the several white Amanita species known as destroying angels.[60]

The active constituents of this species are water soluble, and boiling and then discarding the cooking water will at least partly detoxify A. muscaria.[61] However, drying may increase potency as the process facilitates the conversion of ibotenic acid to the more potent muscimol.[62] According to some sources, once detoxified, the mushroom becomes edible.[63
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Mew said

the skin of the cap smolders even when dry, and tastes like peanut butter. it might be best to keep it oral, but it might be best to dose oral dmt aswell. perhaps dmt+ amanita will yield new effects without maoi, with maoi im unsure of the potential contraindication between muscimol and harmalas
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Harmalas and Amanita combined should be treated with the utmost respect, because of the relative toxicity of Amanita and the tendency for Harmalas to magnify compounds by a factor of 3-4X.

I think it is safe to assume that if you combine Amanita with MAOI then you stand a chance at increasing the potency of Amanita by at least 3 fold. So I would definitely not recommend any high dose of Amanita with MAOI...I believe there are some reports on Erowid of people taking Syrian rue with large amounts of Amanita and it does not sound pleasant.

By the same token I believe there would be very little danger involved in a smoked Amanita/MAOI combination.

Speaking form my own personal experience with it, I have used Amanita many times in conjunction with Ayahuasca and I can say that while Amanita does magnify the experience considerably..it is something one would want to be careful with.

I took 20grams of (weak) Caapi, capsulized and 15 grams of DMT along with 2 grams of Amanita one time and that was an overly intense experience to say the least, (felt nowhere close to death however) After that I lowered my Amanita dosage to under 1 half gram for Ayahuasca potentiation. Currently my Amanita-Ayahuasca dosage is between 200mg and 500mg of Amanita M cap along with my normal Ayahuasca dose which is 75-125Grams of Caapi, 30-50mg of Harmine fumerate and sometimes 1-2 grams of rue for extra effects and extra purge power.

It is worthwhile to note that Amanita Muscaria does vary GREATLY potency wise so after I harvest and sun dry them I test them by themselves to see how strong they are as they do have a distinct effect. I think it would be very important to test the strength and toxic effects if any of an Amanita before combining it with an MAOI...

For example I got these Amanita once off the internet, they were advertised to be the best and had good reviews etc. When I tried them on their own they made me way more ill with a bad headache not like my regular hand picked ones, had I taken these internet ones with Harmalas or Ayahuasca I may have been in bad trouble. Out of curiosity I tried them with smoked DMT and they did nothing special, they actually seemed to inhibit the experience. This is why I stress the importance of sun drying.
 
this sounds interesting. :) i am really keen to experience the amanita muscaria trip as I've heard quite amazing things about the experience... so you dont think a high dose is worth the trouble elliyahu? i don't mind a good purge so if there is light at the end of the tunnel i'm willing to dive in
 
bricklaya said:

this sounds interesting. i am really keen to experience the amanita muscaria trip as I've heard quite amazing things about the experience... so you dont think a high dose is worth the trouble elliyahu? i don't mind a good purge so if there is light at the end of the tunnel i'm willing to dive in
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I would not take more than 2 grams of the mushrooms that I have...I usually take less than half a gram...
For a more powerful experience I believe you just need to add more DMT...and more harmala but I would keep the Amanita dose the same.

I doubt there would be purge unless you combined it with oral maio's
 
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