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I saw the thread about converting the ibotenic acid to muscimol via fermentation and making an Amanita yogurt. Interesting. Also occurred to a friend of mine that an Amanita muscaria kombucha could be possible, letting the microbes do the work to convert the ibotenic acid into muscimol.
So boiling in acidified water and straining makes for partially decarbed tea dosing but not fully decarbed. To fully decarb means to do something along the lines of simmering for 3 hours at a specific pH. Process for full decarboxylation quoted below.
There are reasons that some users like a full decarb while many actually prefer a partially decarbed dose.
The supply I have is from someone who dries A. muscaria, regalis, and pantherina at a temperature of 100°F so decabroxylation has not yet occurred. Higher dehydration temperatures of 104–122°F can reportedly result in about 35% ibotenic acid decarboxylation. Higher temperatures can result in a loss in overall potency, and temperatures exceeding 176°F is said to decrease potency dramatically.
With a new supply of dried caps I plan to try oven decarbing some of the already dried mushroom caps similar to what is popular with cannabis flowers, though at 125°F-150°F for 1-1.5 hours. I am familiar with the effects of partially decarbed Amanita muscaria tea and gummies on myself with microdoses and macrodoses. I am doing this oven decarb in hopes of being able to skip the tea or gummy making process and encapsulate powder made of oven decarbed mushroom caps. I have verified that there’s a setting on my oven that maintains a temperature for me and I will report my results with this oven decarbing attempt.
So boiling in acidified water and straining makes for partially decarbed tea dosing but not fully decarbed. To fully decarb means to do something along the lines of simmering for 3 hours at a specific pH. Process for full decarboxylation quoted below.
There are reasons that some users like a full decarb while many actually prefer a partially decarbed dose.
The supply I have is from someone who dries A. muscaria, regalis, and pantherina at a temperature of 100°F so decabroxylation has not yet occurred. Higher dehydration temperatures of 104–122°F can reportedly result in about 35% ibotenic acid decarboxylation. Higher temperatures can result in a loss in overall potency, and temperatures exceeding 176°F is said to decrease potency dramatically.
With a new supply of dried caps I plan to try oven decarbing some of the already dried mushroom caps similar to what is popular with cannabis flowers, though at 125°F-150°F for 1-1.5 hours. I am familiar with the effects of partially decarbed Amanita muscaria tea and gummies on myself with microdoses and macrodoses. I am doing this oven decarb in hopes of being able to skip the tea or gummy making process and encapsulate powder made of oven decarbed mushroom caps. I have verified that there’s a setting on my oven that maintains a temperature for me and I will report my results with this oven decarbing attempt.
Method for fully decarbing Amanitas
1. For dried mushrooms, cut them into small pieces but don't grind them into a powder. For fresh mushrooms, remove the dirt and dice them into small cubes.
2. Fill the stainless steel pot with tap water, ensuring there's enough to last for the entire simmer.
3. Add mushrooms and store.
4. Wait for the pH level of the water to adjust.
5. Add a tiny amount of lemon juice.
6. Stir.
7. Measure the water's pH. Add more lemon juice if necessary until the pH value reaches 2.5 to 3.0 (stir between each drop addition).
8. Put the lid on the pot and bring it to a boil.
9. Once a rolling boil is achieved, lower the heat to simmer.
10. Maintain the simmer for three hours while keeping the lid on, only removing it when you need to check inside.
11. Measure the water's pH level every half hour to ensure it stays in the correct range.
12. Allow to cool to room temperature.
13. Strain the mushroom matter, squeezing out any liquids and discarding the remains.