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An evening of interesting, disturbing & bizarre entity interaction

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Purges

Rising Star
OG Pioneer
PRE-CONDITIONS
(mind)Set: Calm, good mood
(physical condition) Set: Getting a bit of a beer gut, but that's being worked on, besides that, pretty good shape if I do say so myself....
Setting (location): At home, in my living room. Darkened room, lit candle on coffee table and a few of my pet snakes in the corner of the room (away from where I smoke)
time of day: (12 or 24 hour system, daylight? starlight? overcast?) Late night, maybe 1:00am
recent drug use: (list also any kind of medication) Cannabis, Caffeine, Spice, 2CB a week or so before
last meal: (Time and type) Can't remember, it was a while back, something yummy probably though.

PARTICIPANT
Gender: (m / f) M
body weight: (in kg pls) 70 kg
known sensitivities:
history of use: (experienced, novice, first timer - in general and for this specific substance/form)
Novice / Gaining experience fast. 20 + experiences under my belt...
BIOASSAY

Substance(s): (list all taken substances) Lemon Haze Cannabis, 1:1 enhanced leaf (peppermint tea)
Dose(s): (in the same order as Substances pls, use metric system i.e. g/ mg/ �g) ud - 0.5g during day, Spice 0.05 - 0.06mg (25-30 mg spice, plus some residue)
Method of administration: (dissolved in water, capsuls, insufflated, vaporized...)
smoked in my trusty bong...

EFFECTS

Administration time: T=0:00 (expand this if you used delayed administration for multiple substances or the same substance with multiple doses. Use indices.)
Duration: (x hours) 2hrs
First effects: Instant
Peak: (estimate a time range and note as e.g. T=2:00-4:00 for a range of 2 hours beginning 2 hours after administration) 30seconds
Come down: T+1:30hrs
Baseline: 2 hrs

Intensity (overall): (use HRS-like scale i.e. 0-4: 0 = "Not at all;" 1 = "Slightly;" 2 = "Moderately;" 3 = "Quite a bit;" 4 = "Extremely.")
Evaluation / notes:

OPTIONAL
Pleasantness: (0-4) Lots of grim / threatening imagery, but some nice parts - 2
Implesantness: (0-4) Not very nice, but not scarring in any way 3
Visual Intensity: (0-4) Maggot thing was brown and boring, blossoming flame plant was pretty awesome though 1-4
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AFTER-EFFECTS

Hangover: (0-4 ; what type of impleasantness ; duration) 0
Afterglow: (0-4 ; what type of positive effects ; duration) Most disappointing afterglow so far - 1


REPORT


So a couple of weeks back I decided to experiment with consecutive dosing. I had broken through a few times before and thought I had got my head around that side of things. The following events left me some what perplexed, and a little shaken, but luckily I am a resilient chap (as anyone who explores the Spice should be!) and saw the positive in what were pretty disturbing, dark, or unsettling encounters. Feel free to add your thoughts and feelings on these experiences. I have a drawing to follow which I will post when I have access to a scanner, which won't be for a week or so...

So, as I often does, I sat there late one night reading the Nexus, and thought "enough theory, time for a field trip" - this happens maybe once every one to two weeks at the moment, or occasionally on consecutive days if the occasion calls for it. As interesting as reading about other people's hyperspace jaunts, nothing quite compares to strapping on that rocket pack, hitting the 'random' button, and seeing just where you land...

So the ritual is - go to fridge, remove sacred container and grab scales. Weigh dose(s) and get ready for the impending flight. This usually, but not always, is between 5-30 mins meditation, breathing control, or focussing intention. This time I sat there, cross legged, breathing slowly and repeating mentally "teach me, teach me" - I then snap out of it and get straight to business. This session was 3 hits between 25-30mg (50-60mg enhanced leaf, which seems to be my sweet spot) in 2 hours, which I hadn't done before, or since...

Journey 1

I was projected into a small room, fractals dissipated very quickly and I was left in this small space. It was very nondescript, almost like a cell. My attention was drawn to a heap on the floor, which turned out to be a female, her features were quite manga-esque, although with that 'Ultra HD' spice edge to them. She was sort of huddled face down in the fetal position, but what I could see of her looked in a pretty sorry state, maybe she had just taken a beating or something like that, there were cuts, bruises and lacerations and her clothes looked very ragged. I kept thinking "Why are you showing me this? What is the relevance? What am I learning from this?!"... It was like an unpleasant scene from a SAW film, it lingered, and I tried vainly to 'change the channel'. Then it dawned on me. I WAS being taught. Just not in a way that I was used to. The answer leapt out at me - the Spice was showing me that I wouldn't always be shown what I wanted to see, it wouldn't all be colourful explosions and rushes of deep euphoria, or even cheeky little elves (who incidentally I am yet to meet again, which sucks, I enjoyed our last encounter). This realisation seemed to have a transformative effect, and the mauled girl started to blossom into a strange alien looking plant, which was like a vine that kept growing, and guiding me back into an open eyed trance. My vision fell on the candle, which was the only thing illuminating the room, and the visuals I got from the flames were nothing short of outstanding. Beams of energy were blossoming out of the top of the candle, very flower like, each beam was like a large, beautiful red petal.

Journey 2

So, I started questioning whether taking the second hit would be a good idea... My inner voice told me to 'man the f*@% up' as it often does, and I took the plunge. Looking at the bowl afterwards, I only managed to smoke 2/3 of what was in there, but it was a much more intense blast off. Mke of it what you will, tolerance, residue in bowl, less wastage, what ever, I digress. It may Also be worth mentioning that I moved my chair in front of the fire place, and placed the candle in there, bordered by a couple of our plants. Good little focal point, I thought.

Whooooosh! Plop. Wow. This place is much bigger than the last, and much more black and white. The usual fractals were more of a grid like pattern this time, and these beings were part of that fabric, one second there was wall (well, hyperspace wall), the next, these human like figures were lurching out of it making what looked like threatening gestures. They didn't seem too happy that I was in this monochrome dimension, but I just sat there and watched, not much point fighting it after all... Has anyone else met monochrome grumpy grid people on their journeys?! A Pic will follow soon.

Coming down off that trip, I wasn't too sure what to make of it. The only thing I can think of is that it was a representation of my parents, who have been on my case to get a job. I had had a rather epic ear bashing off my Mum earlier that day about this very issue. I do need a job, but have been procrastinating in favour of spiritual persuits, such as meditation, exploring hyperspace, and reading any essays, books, watching / listening to philosophers such as Mr. Mckenna, and also dabbling in creative writing, art, music, cookery and other positive outlets for my energy.

One of my snakes also became unusually hyper active, and was crashing about their vivarium. I sensed that she could feel the internal explosions I was experiencing and was a little shaken by it. Looking back, she is a nocturnal creature, of course she would be crashing about in the early hours!


Journey 3

All I could see in the darkness was this enormous maggot type creature. It wanted to eat me. I wasn't down with that, so I beamed "I love you but you can't eat me" at it. It didn't eat me, but it did just sit there doing nothing, so I opened my eyes after a time, when it was possible, and the light from the candle was horrible, way too searing and bright. It scared the shit out of me for some reason, and I jumped out of my seat and retreated to the sofa, where I lay and let the remainder of the trip subside.

Odd, intense, boring visually, and no real outcome from that one... I'm still mulling it over, but it's just weirdness... Maybe I should have let it eat me? :lol:


So the first one had a clear message, but the other 2 were hard to define in that sense. Maybe the lesson is "It won't always show you what you want to see, or even what you need to see, and not everyone / thing you meet out there will be benevolent" Or maybe my mind wasn't in as good a place as I had thought and it was a factor... Either way, lots of food for thought, and I'm not sure I will ever make sense of all of that!

Think it's going to be a while before my next adventure, although I do hear it calling me in the dead of night...
 
I can say consecutive dosing is brilliant, but it makes you realize just how many open vistas of reality are waiting for you, like you described, bizarre creatures, blossoming portals of inviting light, one simply cannot condense ONE experience into words, and yet we try to condense many experiences into one post, it's ridiculous!

But it's fun to try and I enjoyed that :)
 
I'm still trying to piece it together myself lol, which is weird, because the insight often smacks me round the face afterwards. I guess it just shows how truely multi faceted this bizarre, lovely, frightening substance is! I think in future Changa would be better than consecutive dosing, that way I can get to a decent level, and keep it going, I find freebase a bit like a bungee jump, where you get dunked into another realm for a short period and then emerge scratching your head thinking WTF? I hate it when you are just getting involved and it's time to come back :lol:
 
Purges said:
Whooooosh! Plop. Wow. This place is much bigger than the last, and much more black and white. The usual fractals were more of a grid like pattern this time, and these beings were part of that fabric, one second there was wall (well, hyperspace wall), the next, these human like figures were lurching out of it making what looked like threatening gestures. They didn't seem too happy that I was in this monochrome dimension, but I just sat there and watched, not much point fighting it after all... Has anyone else met monochrome grumpy grid people on their journeys?! A Pic will follow soon.


I actually resonate with the hyperspace wall of peopleoids you describe. One time on a rather unpleasant trip I experienced a harsh entry into hyperspace. My only vision was this giant object, like a wall in a way but with much more complexity, of what appeared to be made up of human like shapes. Having a long time to reflect on this vision, my intuition tells me I was looking at time in a very different way. The wall of people I observed was like stepping outside of time and zooming out far enough to view it as a cohesive whole instead of only experiencing it moment to moment existence like we do in normal waking conciousness.

Put another way, I believe my 'eyes' (my concious vision; that which we still have while in hyperspace) is locked onto only the present moment of reality but I have so many choices to make daily, even small choices like which route to take to work or what to eat for breakfast that my timeline varies many different ways in any given day. When we enter that area of hyperspace I get the feeling like your looking at a giant hyperspacial object that is your entire timeline and all the possibilities inherent in it. The peoploids, in my experience, were all versions of myself playing out scenarios of my existence. If I had made a different choice in any of my daily activites, this 'people fabric' is an extension of all possibilites ranging on into the infinity of this one life I call my own.

If we consider for just a moment that conciousness is like the wave function of quantum mechanics, it adds a slight bit of scientific rationality to what I'm describing, albeit in an obscure and fringy sort of way. If conciousness is, for want of a better word, god himself, then truly conciousness is infinate. Plato may have had it right when he theorized that the physical world is a reflection of the world of pure thought, but I'll leave that discussion for a different thread. Anyways if consiousness is infinate then all possibilities exist within it. We, as humans, are concious creatures. We make choices daily, such as I have the choice right now to drive to the west coast. If I did drive the to west coast, the wave function I've labeled as conciousness for the sake of this thought experiment, collapses and I experience only one conclusion from the choices I've made, the choice being I'm sitting on the west coast with a certain climate, scenery, temperature, feeling, etc. However, if I had not made that choice and decided to stay at home, the wave function collapses to that experience.

Basically what I'm driving at is we have an infinate number of possibilities at any given moment but can only experience one possibility at a time from our earthly perspective. However, from the vantage point of hyperspace with reference to the wall of humanoids, I think what we may be seeing is those other possibilities being played out as alternate (or sub if you perfer) realities. Perhaps this is what people who have had near death experiences refer to when they talk about a life review. 'My life flashed before my eyes and I realized I could have made so many different choices' is a common theme among those who have had NDE. Perhaps, and I'm only postulating and I'd ask you to forgive my ramblings but perhaps what were REALLY doing here on earth is creating a hyperspacial work of art with what we call our lives.

Thanks for reading. I'm new here but I have a lot of stuff I've been needing to get off my chest about my experiences so if I seem a bit frantic in my explanations just know that it's because I haven't had an opportunity to discuss these things with like minded individuals.
 
Purges,
Great trip report, I believe you are right in saying that once you reach a certain level of hyperspace, continue to surrender to more possibilities. It may be imagination at play, there should not be any consequences for your actions, but I'm not sure, some people say do not "sign the contract" to any entities, but what have you got to lose? You seem like me, researching, reading, listening to philosophers, dreaming, experimenting and seeking the path to spirituality, I invest a tremendous amount of time in that. Haha. The job I have now is something I would rather not be doing, but just to meet the needs of this mundane reality, I believe my focus should be shifted to something higher for this life on Earth, we are so conditioned to it, we cannot wake up to how ridiculous it sometimes is.

Tek,
Thanks for the great read, you should post more of your thoughts or experiences here on the nexus. People like me would like to know. When you bring up this possibility of causality and series of events, its interesting because on a high dose of marijuana I was brought to a weird state where time was not too relevant but as I went through even miniscule tasks and experiences throughout the day it seems I was being shown lessons, experiences, thoughts on every different aspect of my life that is part of me, connecting me to the stream of existence, in a way, and this is what life has to offer. And for my life seemingly being dull at the moment, its actually very complex. It seems as though there are multiple "wavelengths of causality" that can exist simultaneously, becoming more novel, but these aren't tangible ones, you are only aware of them. There must be a term for this whole thing...this may not make sense its even confusing me. I can only imagine how much insight could be gained on a higher psychedelic.

And the thing about the NDE. I saw a program about a lady who had one and was being shown by "God" her life if she was born a male instead of female and was shown what her life would have turned out like, and apparently she would have had a premature death if that was the case.
 
Purges, this isn't really a big part of your trip report, but I wanted to comment. I'm in a similar situation, although I have diminishing funds to support myself without parents or family for the last few months. I'm unemployed and find my time completely enveloped in this pursuit. I think we have to keep in mind that our procrastination could possibly be due to the nature of humans to find a comfort zone and stick with it. In my experience, excessive routine in comfort zones lead to stagnation of the mind. Still, this is only my experience, and I really have no idea what to do to make a living, lol. Also, I'm pretty damn happy where I'm at, as I'm sure you likely are (which makes it even more tough, lol.)

Maybe I'll teach Yoga 8)

Goodluck, friend. Great journey report.
 
Purges said:
I guess it just shows how truely multi faceted this bizarre, lovely, frightening substance is!

In friggin' deed! :lol:

PS. I'm one of those people who take several journeys in one session, usually. Sometimes even five journeys, and these are doses 25-35mg.
 
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