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An Experiment in Crashing Out Freebase

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Seraph

Seraph

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I intend to do an experiment and in this experiment I intend to try to obtain freebase DMT from the resulting solution of acid cooks from an A/B without using an extraction solvent, this is how I'm going to try to do it.

1. Powder ACRB as far as I can.
2. Simmer this in an acidic solution of water and phosphoric acid that is at pH 4 for half an hour and then make a pull.
3. Repeat the previous step two more times.
4. Reduce all of the combined pulls to about 200ml.
5. Allow the solution to cool down to room temperature.
6. Do a defat with heated naphtha.
7. Create a solution of water and sodium hydroxide at pH 14, all of the sodium hydroxide will be dissolved in the solution and allow the solution to cool down to room temperature.
8. Combine the highly alkaline sodium hydroxide solution with the acacia-extract solution, then shake it.
9. Put the solution in a tall, glass container and then put it in the fridge for a while. After a while the solution will be denser further down the container. Siphon off most of the less-dense solution nearer the top and put it in a container, there shouldn't be much or any DMT in this less-dense solution.
10. Pour the solution from the tall, glass container through a coffee filter.
11. Most if not all of the DMT in the solution should end up getting caught in the coffee filter.
12. Allow all of the liquid to drain through the coffee filter so that sodium hydroxide doesn't get mixed in with the DMT.
13. Once all of the liquid has drained through allow the DMT to dry on the coffee filter, the coffee filter will also dry.

I don't know how pure this DMT will be but if it is not pure enough do the following steps.

14. Dissolve the DMT in an acidic solution of water and phosphoric acid that is at pH 4.
15. Filter this solution with a coffee filter, anything that gets caught in the coffee filter is an impurity.
16. Change the pH of the solution to pH 14 with a solution of water and sodium hydroxide that has cooled to room temperature, all of the sodium hydroxide should be dissolved into the solution.
17. Put this solution in the fridge and then filter it with a coffee filter, the DMT will be caught in the coffee filter, it will be purer than it was before you purified it, not surprisingly.
18. Allow the DMT to dry.
19. Put your DMT in water, any sodium hydroxide mixed in with your DMT should dissolve into the water, pour off and discard the water and allow the DMT to dry.

This is an experiment I am going to do and I am going to make notes and take photos and then post my experiment if I succeed, can anyone think of any way(s) to improve my experiment?
 
ACRB is acacia rootbark? It might work for acacia, but I’ve tried experiments with MHRB that were very similar to what you’re suggesting, and it just doesn’t work – there’s something in MHRB solution that prevents the DMT from settling out.

I first got the idea when I tried a caapi extraction. With caapi, the alkaloids fall right out of solution and are easily separated via decanting or filtering. But with MHRB, the DMT doesn’t settle out at all.
 
I don't understand your step #9, regarding varying density in solutions. If you truly have a solution, the density wouldn't vary (to a practical or meaningful extent). In any case, an A/B process without a subsequent non-polar extraction would, I think, simply capture ALL water soluble components--seemingly a LOT of stuff you wouldn't want.

I also don't understand how it is that you expect a solution containing DMT to "remain" in a coffee filter.
 
SWIMfriend said:
I don't understand your step #9, regarding varying density in solutions. If you truly have a solution, the density wouldn't vary (to a practical or meaningful extent). In any case, an A/B process without a subsequent non-polar extraction would, I think, simply capture ALL water soluble components--seemingly a LOT of stuff you wouldn't want.

I also don't understand how it is that you expect a solution containing DMT to "remain" in a coffee filter.
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In step #8 he freebases the DMT, so I assume he’s referring to a density gradient of solid/suspended DMT in step #9.

As I already said, this method works for some alkaloids in some plants – harmalas in caapi, for example. So not all plants contain “clathrate-like compounds” that prevent all freebased alkaloids from coming out of solution. It’s possible that acacia is one of those plants. Only way to find out is to try!
 
Seraph wrote:
9. Put the solution in a tall, glass container and then put it in the fridge for a while. After a while the solution will be denser further down the container. Siphon off most of the less-dense solution nearer the top and put it in a container, there shouldn't be much or any DMT in this less-dense solution.
10. Pour the solution from the tall, glass container through a coffee filter.
11. Most if not all of the DMT in the solution should end up getting caught in the coffee filter.
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..i don't quite understand this..has this worked before?
in experience, dmt will not neccesarily congeal in solution because it is freebase..also there's a lot of other compounds in acacia bark which can congeal with the freebase
alkaloids (tannins, sugars etc), which should get also caught by the filter...
 
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