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aniracetam+noopept+2cb+dmt=system overload and reboot?

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lunac

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I'd like to share a rather frightful experience I had last night.
Me and two of my best friends planned a psychedelic night involving Salvia, DMT, 2cb and ketamine with nos in that order, maybe adding the DMT in the last part of the 2cb trip. The We all had multiple experiences in DMT, me and one friend experienced high doses of 2cb a couple of times and I had tried the 2cb-DMT combo with great success once before. I have been taking a aniracetam/noopept stack in the last few weeks and have taken 2 doses in the morning and midday. I have taken lighter doses of DMT some days before to check what the combination of the 2 would do, It didnt seem to give me any noticable different effects. Having read nootropics potentially could increase psychedelic effects, I was curious what the effects on the 2cb would do.
So we started with the 20x salvia smoking up to 330mg each with almost no effects. This was odd because we were under the impression that 150mgs should give an intense experience. Maybe it was a bad batch or something but it made us go into our first DMT trip right after. This was a good, positive DMT trip for the three of us and we took some time to fully recover before taking the 2cb intranasal. We each took 25 mg spread out in about 2 hours and the effects were very pleasant enjoying the visual effects and laughing our assess of almost the whole time. When we felt the plateau of the 2cb was over me and one friend wanted to try the 2cb DMT combo. So I sandwiched 50mgs between some pau d'darco, got 3 nice hits and layd down. As soon as I closed my eyes everything in my visual field collapsed into a small off-white triangular field with some black dots. This was all there was and I remember feeling my 2 friends get sucked into this void as well. But because this void was also me it felt like we all merged into this void losing a sense of my self. This all happened in a split of a second, scaring me and I tried opening my eyes, however this had no effect. So my first thoughts were I had fried my brains and I was dying, but then I also managed to bend this into thinking ok, I am still having thought, lets give this a minute and see what happens. I kind of remember that this off-white void with shapes growing and getting more shapes in it and I realised I still heard the music playing. some time after this my visual field was slowly being build back to normal. I got some glimpses of my room altered with very complex visual shapes. I could almost feel de DMT getting out of my system. I than had some very intense cev's for 2 or 3 minutes before gong back to just the 2cb Visuals.
Like I said this at first was very scary to me as I was expecting to blast off into the DMT universe but got something completely different insstead...
Looking back I really feel like I got a sensory overload making a part of my brain reset or something and I thing I can attribute this to the influence of the ani-noopept stack. I am wondering if any of you have experienced or have heard of something similar....
 
Yes combing DMT with nootropics completely changes things. You have to take in to consideration that you are activating multiple receptors with different chemicals so of course there is going to be potential for it to become not what you expected and or desired.

Mixing just never went well for apart from at very low doses of DMT and n02.

If you want a list of drugs that are safe to interact with DMT then look here: Known substance-interactions and their effects - DMT-Nexus Wiki

but safe doesn't necessarily guarantee a pleasant or desirable trip... just be aware of that.
 
I did a lot of research (including these forums) on all four combinations and could only find mentions of nootropics possibly potentiating tryptamines and phenethylamines. I also found mostly positive or neutral trip reports. I have also read a couple of times there is very little research on nootropic/drug combinations however the info I had found lead me to beleive it was safe. I guess there is now at least one negative case. I am glad I live to share the experience :)
 
lunac said:
I did a lot of research (including these forums) on all four combinations and could only find mentions of nootropics possibly potentiating tryptamines and phenethylamines. I also found mostly positive or neutral trip reports. I have also read a couple of times there is very little research on nootropic/drug combinations however the info I had found lead me to beleive it was safe. I guess there is now at least one negative case. I am glad I live to share the experience :)

I don't think fathomless was saying that it wasn't safe, rather saying "safe doesn't necessarily guarantee a pleasant or desirable trip". 😉
 
Right! I guess I was trying to say the combo doesn't feel safe to me. I will definatly not repeat as it didn't even feel like a trip but more like a system failure :thumb_dow
 
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