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ANTROCLES CHRONICLES: DAY 2

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antrocles

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day 2- the wake-up call....

so, of ALL the medicine i brought with me to this paradise, for some reason i TOTALLY underestimated this salvia tincture. not in a dismissive, disrespectful way or anything...but i somehow was convinced that since i was not smoking it the effects would be not that big.

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so- i encourage you ALL to read this thoroughly to hopefully avoid the serious wake-up call i just went through....without question THE MOST INTENSE psychedelic experience i've ever had to date. no question. i'm STILL shaken as i recant this to you....
i've got it all planned out. i just took a full gram of kavalactone extract and my entire head is numb and i feel like i'm made out of silicon. a giant foamy bath the size of my bedroom back at my house steams invitingly for me to melt into it. the panoramic bay window that surrounds the tub hangs over the sound and with the lights out (except for a couple candles) all i see are stars and shapes of islands. waves lapping and whalesong fill my ears. setting is handled.

set...however...was not.

don't get me wrong- i was on a full gr. of kava and could NOT be more blissed out. i was submerged in frothy warmth and every sensorial factor was getting the equivalent of a shiatsu massage. i couldn't have been more prepped to do ANYTHING. so....i reach for the bottle of green goddess salvia tincture from sage wisdom. i read the enclosed brochure and decide that i'm going to take 3 FULL droppers undiluted sublingual. this is the high end of "moderate" on the dosage chart. now...i say that my "set" was off and this is how: i COMPLETELY underestimated the potency of this tincture. perhaps the kava potentiated it...i'm not sure...but within about 5 minutes (was supposed to hold it for 15 minutes) i began to get the sensation that something massive was en route. so strong was this feeling that i literally bolted up from this heavenly setting and, with the urgency of someone who's house was on fire, i began to towel off and get dressed.

salvia is, without question, the strongest psychedelic known. period.

now it's a race against time....as i'm frantically putting on clothing, my socks are melting into my feet and my arms are pouring out of my shirt sleeves. i am being unzipped, unfolded....all i can think to do is make it to the living room where there is a giant patch of empty carpet. i must make it there and lay sprawled on my back. every step i take toward the living room i am being eaten by the floor. 10 feet away now and i am on my hands and knees crawling. the instant i flop onto my back i am enveloped. overgrown like a shoe left in a field for years....flowers, grass...spring out of me...through me...i am lost. the intensity is beyond anything my arrogant ass had prepped itself for.

this experience was a testament to my ability to surrender. once i was enveloped and taken, i surrendered completely. the "god-me" that cannot be destroyed began a humble dialogue with this undeniably female energy. i asked her if she liked the kava....
serpents flew through me, devoured me, shit me out...the salvia spirit regarded the "kava" much as a child would look at a momentary curiosity....then moved on. i felt that i was about to be reprimanded. not in a mean, evil way...but in a "i need to show you exactly who i am so that you will NEVER have anything other that the utmost respect when even uttering my name" kind of way. and this is where i experienced something i've NEVER experienced before. ever.

as if i were a child being yanked up by his collar, i was literally YANKED up onto my feet, turned around, and "taken" to the back door. i could not formulate words...i was trying to say something all hippy like "yes mother, show me what you will" but all that came out was gurgling blather...besides, my bitch ass didn't need to say anything...i just needed to shut up and pay attention. the salvia spirit literally put me on like a cheap suit and walked me right outside. my eyes were a little wild as i literally bore witness to my "possession". i couldn't do anything.....i simply watched as i walked on my tip toes almost falling forward all the way down to the water front and dropped onto my hands and knees into the shallow water. the water flowed through me, into me...the cold was more of a sound frequency that a palpable sensation. as quickly as i was thrown down, i was yanked back up and drug back upstairs. now i was taken out the front door and into a copse of treeS. thrown up against a giant conifer until the moss grew all over me and the tree ate, processed and shit me back out.


for a moment, i felt terror. truly. the terror of "if this spirit wanted to, she could march my powerless ass right off a cliff and i wouldn't be able to do fuckall about it!"....almost as if sensing this, i was immediately filled with this sense of motherly love that i've never known before. a sadness accompanied it..almost like she was sad that she had to be so stern with me but that it was for my own good...

....the journey lasted over an hour before i had any sense of self-control again. 90 minutes later and was STILL having OEVs and CEVs, but compared to what i had just experienced, it was nothing....i was truly happy just to be alive.

in reflection- i feel that all other entheogens/psychedelics that i have worked with up to this point are "mirrors" of a sort. even DMT that i love...after over 100 journeys, i have begun to feel that the world i go to, the entities i meet...they are all mirrors or facets of myself.... SALVIA, however, is the first instance where i felt that i was undeniably inhabited by ANOTHER spirit. as i sit here, thoroughly shaken, i am of the strong opinion that in the world of psychedelics..salvia is queen. never again will i approach her with anything but respect and humility.

sorry for the long one...that was as much for me as for you guys :) ....

LOVE AND GRATITUDE!
 
sounds awesome. nice trip man. I've never knew what all the fuss was about with Salvia...but I'm slowly coming around. reports like this push me a little closer to trying it again...maybe a proper product this time
 
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I have been waiting for your return and report. Thank you. I am with Art, you are a f*&king SOLDIER. Now that you got the big one out of the way, let us in on some of the 'lesser' journeys. With that kind of arsenal, I know there is more to tell.
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A wonderful report Antrocoles!

By your description, you have truly discovered salvia! So wonderful and SO powerful when you break thru, but yes, at that point she demands TOTAL respect and total submission. But then if you give her your respect and attention, she will do you so well when you let her have her way with you. My swim is a very experienced salvianaut and he goes ALL the way with her on every visit with strong 20x and he gives her total submission.

My friend has some tincture, tried a bit, and it didn't do much so he discounted the value of it. He will try three droppers when it he is on his summer sabatical this year and hopes to get a good reaction to it as you have.

Maybe my swim has just gotten so used to salvia, but dmt seems to him to be more potent than salvia, but in a much different way. They cannot replace each other and I shutter in fear at the idea of combining them.

I'm really enjoying reading your chronicles this week. Thanks for sharing!

Peace
Sight Seeker
 
An intense Salvia experience Antrocoles, Ive only had Salvia once it was four years ago and i haven't journeyed with Salvia since. I had a full outer body experience and i felt that i couldn't feel myself breathing anymore. I know that i took way to much 200mg of 40x but i would never take any extracted Salvia again. I dont know why but Salvias energy and mine just dont mix it was more than it being to much for me i just know in my heart we don't seem to get along and its as simple as that. I guess each person has there own different combination of enthogen teachers depending on what type of person they are and what life journeys they need to go on.

Again thank you for sharing :d


Much Peace
 
i know exactly what you're talking about my friend....salvia is much different than many triptamines and entheogens as a whole. unlike most of them, it does NOT work in conjunction with the seratonin system in the brain.....it is a kappa opioid receptor agonist and as such, makes no promises of the "love" and "bliss" that seratonin can impart. it is a raw experience. a powerful and, if you're not ready, terrifying one...
for some time i tried salvia in it's many incarnations- dried leaf, extracted dried leaf (did NOT like), tincture (got my balls slapped pretty hard) and most recently, quidding fresh leaves...
as rough as that tincture experience was, it did do something pivotal for me and my relationship with the sacred sage- it introduced me to her on quite a personal level. she gave me a real sit-down that day....no joke....but i've since cultivated quite a formidable bush of salvia here in my living room and have tried imbibing her the way (in my humble opinion) she prefers to be communed with. the quid method. about 15 leaves chewed up into a wad and stuck in my cheek to slowly leak the bitter essence into my body.
the journey is much different as well- MUCH more friendly and (this is the best part) MUCH more USEABLE in terms of lessons and work.
for me- the extracts and, if i'm not careful, the tincture can be just too much. it can just blow you apart with no opportunity to even bring anything back other than, "holy mother of shit!!! what just happened to me??!?!"

i would strongly recommend if you have the space to grow a couple plants...pray to them...nurture them....fill them with righteous intent and, while you're at it, COMMUNICATE with them as much as possible. i've got a beautiful journeyman's garden going at this point filled with peyote, san pedro, salvia, and sacred weed (MJ) as well as a mycology kit i use to flush up some holy fungus on occasion. i play my guitar, sing, read passages from books, flatter, flirt and just plain BOND with all of these beings.

...they in turn show me the great unknown.

seems like a pretty sweet relationship if you ask me! ;)

LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!
 
Wow. Really interesting report!
I have been using enhanced extract for a couple of years almost, and been growing plants for almost as long. I dont have much luck with the plants, I am slowly learning how to look after them ... never had a good amount of leaves, enough to quid without stripping it of most or all of its leaves! Hopefully soon I will, one of my plants is growing back really well after it ended up just a single dry stalk. I realised regular misting or a humidity tent/conche is the key!
I find smoking really interesting but too short and intense to bring much back. Still useful I think. I am considering making my own tincture with the dried leaves I've been collecting.
 
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Thank you Ant. Your genuine love and appreciation for existence really strikes a note in me. I wish we could sit and partake at some point. I am on the east coast, though. Maybe my next trip to the desert. Love reading your reports, keep up the good 'work'.

J
 
Amazing! Really inspires me with Salvia, I'm not ready yet but definitely someday I know now. Can't wait to finish reading these!! =)

Also, I forgot to specify that SWIM has been smoking 10x extract, I think SWIM just said smoking which doesn't really say that much ^_^
 
i firmly believe that the reward is worth the hard work and challenge that comes along with the diviner's sage.... i read somewhere that the mazatec indian shamans would usually work with either salvia or the local cubensis in their rituals. some shamans had different preferences....as in...some shamans were unable to work with salvia too! i would like to develop (and believe that i slowly am) a relationship with her....but i will say this much:

quidding it (eating the fresh leaves) is MUCH MUCH better than smoking it. it has been put out there a few times now that she DOES NOT like fire...i can tell you that when you first buy a plant you will need to hot-house it for at least a month..slowly exposing her to your more arid environment until she acclimates. she prefers wet, damp, steamy, tropical....fire pisses her off. this is just my humble opinion...

i HIGHLY recommend getting a plant for a couple reasons.
a. you can commune with her, nurture her and bond with her when you're NOT voyaging. in short- you can develop a relationship with her. i think my plant knows that i love her and take care of her....my journeys with her, although intense to be sure, do have a "safe-ish" feel to them.

maybe it's just me ....not sure...

but as any proud caretaker- lemme show you a pic of my girl!!

her name is reina :) oh- and "phoph" (my peyote cactus) wanted to be in on the shoot too so here are my "proud parent photos"!!


LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!
 

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Antrocles

Those are such lovely pictures i can see that you care for your plants with a lot of attention and love. Its interesting i have discovered exactly why Salvias energy and i just don't mix and its due to Salvias low vibration that it resonates at. Same goes for weed for me i find i have a hard time adjusting to the low vibration that it resonates at so if i do smoke i prefer to smoke hash which gives off a far more clear high high (I really don't smoke often maybe once every two months or so.) It seems through the clarity of my spice journeys that i have discovered this valuable information that i just don't personally resonate well with low or lower vibrations.



Much Peace
 
not sure if there's a high or low frequency for me with salvia....it's just the difficulty with it having such a strong physical effect on me....makes it hard to just surrender and float away into the experience.... MJ's vibration for me depends entirely on how i take it. i can't smoke because my lungs are needed for my job....i eat it and recently made a tincture with some strong sativa...this is better for me....but i can't use MJ daily or i start to become a bit anti-social....

btw- did you notice the two pedro cuttings under my salvia plant? gonna do an extraction with them this week....maybe try your man's jello-tek!! wish me luck! :)

much love sister!

...and gratitude!!
 
antrocles said:
not sure if there's a high or low frequency for me with salvia....it's just the difficulty with it having such a strong physical effect on me....makes it hard to just surrender and float away into the experience.... MJ's vibration for me depends entirely on how i take it. i can't smoke because my lungs are needed for my job....i eat it and recently made a tincture with some strong sativa...this is better for me....but i can't use MJ daily or i start to become a bit anti-social....

btw- did you notice the two pedro cuttings under my salvia plant? gonna do an extraction with them this week....maybe try your man's jello-tek!! wish me luck! :)

much love sister!

...and gratitude!!

Indeed i did notice that's awesome Antrocles cactus is so very healing mentally and physically its differently one of my favorite entheogens. The jello-tek is great coz it will just slide down your throat, I'm sure you don't need luck 😉


Much Peace and Compassion brother
 
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