article: just say no to toad venom

[null24]

I have a google alert for DMT, when it's not giving me articles on knife sharpening or mining technology, occasionally i get an interesting piece. Today we have:''how toad venom gets you high(and then kills you)

 

[RAM]

This seems kind of like a tame thing that people will try once, and if they have a bad time, they just won't do it again. It's hardly an addictive thing, though thoughts of TLA (toad lickers anonymous) do come to mind...

 

[datdmt]

You can easily dissuade the average person by fitting the experience into a small box called hallucination. Normal people equate hallucination to some fear and loathing-isk trip into balcony jumping hell. Sadly as alan watts has said before , visual halluecenation is only a parlor trick that just barely scratches the surface of the whole expeience.

 

[null24]

Great post, datdmt. And frankly with 'toad venom' (for some reason, i love calling 5MEO that:twisted: ) the visual aspect is next to nil. However, how do you explain dying, being sucked out of the top of your skull to be deposited in the eternal void where all that is, was, and will be exists as potential, merging with the source of all manifestation, being placed back into your body-new and transformed puking out a black boa constrictor made of evil that dissolves in black fractal smoke as it leaves the body ? I dunno, but I've given up trying with some folks.

Then again, no really, how DOES one communicate such a powerful positively transformative experience without risking commitment in a facility of some sort?

 

[HippingTrippY]

Ribbit.........Bgoooouugh............Ribbit ROFLMAO

 

[pinkoyd]

All I get is a 404 File Not Found error.

By the way, fabulous avatar there HippingTrippy. I'd love to see a larger version.

 

[oversoul1919]

Toads you're talking about don't have venom. They have poison. There's small, but very important difference between venom and poison.

 

[anrchy]

VENOM VS POISON There is a difference between organisms that are "venomous" and those that are "poisonous", two commonly confused terms applied to plant and animal life. Venomous, as stated above, refers to animals that inject venom into their prey when hunting or as a self-defense mechanism. Poisonous, on the other hand, describes plants or animals that are harmful when consumed or touched. One species of bird, the hooded pitohui, although not venomous, is poisonous, secreting a neurotoxin onto its skin and feathers.

 

[Intezam]

However, how do you explain dying, being sucked out of the top of your skull to be deposited in the eternal void where all that is, was, and will be exists as potential, merging with the source of all manifestation, being placed back into your body-new and transformed puking out a black boa constrictor made of evil that dissolves in black fractal smoke as it leaves the body ? I dunno, but I've given up trying with some folks.
Then again, no really, how DOES one communicate such a powerful positively transformative experience without risking commitment in a facility of some sort?

The answer is: you don't :x (..or ̶̶b̶̶e̶̶ ̶̶g̶̶o̶̶o̶̶d̶̶ excel at communicating). You did just that (excel) and we loved it :thumb_up:

 

[Nathanial.Dread]

The chemical gets into the body and acts as a serotonin agonist, binding to serotonin receptors and releasing a lot of the feel-good substance into the body.

Facepalm

5-HT agonists like 5-MeO-DMT don't release serotonin. That's sort of the point. If they did, then they'd be an MDxx compound.

Also, 5-MeO-DMT doesn't really cause hallucinations, at least, not as dramatically as it's core structure might lead you to believe. It's much more cerebral.

Blessings
~ND

 

[Global]

The chemical gets into the body and acts as a serotonin agonist, binding to serotonin receptors and releasing a lot of the feel-good substance into the body.

Facepalm

5-HT agonists like 5-MeO-DMT don't release serotonin. That's sort of the point. If they did, then they'd be an MDxx compound.

Also, 5-MeO-DMT doesn't really cause hallucinations, at least, not as dramatically as it's core structure might lead you to believe. It's much more cerebral.

Blessings
~ND

I'm actually going to guess that what you quoted there may be a little closer to the truth than you may think. I would assume that 5-MeO DMT binds to the same serotonin receptors that N,N DMT binds to. When they talk about "feel-good", I would say that much of my 5-MeO experiences have that element to it. Because they tend to not be so visual (especially compared to n,n) a big component of it is the way that it makes you feel...and it can make you feel really sensual and good....or a gamut of other things in the cards. I do have to disagree that it doesn't cause hallucinations. Maybe I'm just a very visual person in general, but I've gotten some pretty strong visuals on 5-MeO that rank in the godhead geometry category. Somehow at the same time, it's simply the case that the visuals aren't the main feature of the presentation. They don't carry the same weight and intricacy from their N,N visual counterparts.