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Ayahuasca Diet (Entheogen Diet)

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'Coatl

'Coatl

Teotzlcoatl
Within 33 days of and 33 days after-

ALL medications, vitamins and/or other drugs
Protein bars or extracts

Migraine medicines
MAOIs, SSRIs and any other anti-depressants
O.T.C. cold medicines, Decongestants, Asprin, Allergy, Asthma etc.
Ephedrine and Pseudoephedrine
Yohimbe, St.John's Wort, Rhodiola and other herbal medications
Sedatives- Sleeping Pills, Tranquilizers, etc.
Diet pills, Appetite suppressants, etc.
Narcotics- Cocaine, Heroin, Methamphetamine, etc.
Allergy or Asthma Medication
All types of Opiates- Opium, Valium, Oxycotton, Hydrocodone
Any other type MAO inhibitor



Within 7 days of and 7 days after-

Same as above+
All drugs and alcohol (Including Alcohol, Tobacco, Caffeine, EVERYTHING)
Herbal medinicals and psychoactives of all sorts
Any tyrosine-containing food
Aged Cheese and other fermented edibles and drinks
All types of Beans, Soy beans and all soy related products (including soy sauce!!!) This also includes bean products- like veggie burgers, bean dip, etc. No beans of any kind!!
Broad (Fava) bean pods
Soy Sauce and Miso soup
Avocados
Pickled edibles- Pickled pigs feet, pickled eggs, pickles.
Non-alcoholic brewed (Fermented) beverages (non-alcoholic beer), etc.
Kombucha; All other fermented brewed drinks.
Protein bars or extracts
Aged cheese
High amounts of sugar, Chocolate, Cocoa nibs, other stimulants, etc.
Make sure all food are fresh; spoiled or old food is the main cause of negative reactions.

Within 3 days of and 3 after-

Same as above+
Began Fasting
All drugs and alcohol
Kombucha, Beer and/or other fermented beverages
Chocolate in all forms
Dill, Parsley, Fennel and other strong spices.
All Beans (including soy!!!) This also includes bean products- like soy sauce, bean dip, etc. No beans!!
Avocados
Cultured dairy products (buttermilk, yogurt, cheeses and sour cream)
All Caffeine products (Coffee, Black or Oolong Tea, Energy Drinks, Ect.)
Soy Sauce
High Protein Meals, Beef soup, steaks, etc.
Sausage, Bologna, Pepperoni, Liver and Salami (Pork)
Sauerkraut, Mayo’, Sourcream, etc.
Yeast and other mirco-organisms (unless baked)
Salts, Sugars, Oils and Fats
Make sure all food are fresh; spoiled or old food is the main cause of negative reactions.



Within 36 hours of and 36 hours after-

Same as above+
Perform Detox, cleanse the body.
Meditate, empty the mind and relax.
No meat or ingestion of any sort of living creature.
Absolute no candy, sugar, fats, oils, salt and/or spices.
No sex or masturbation.
Take a long bath or shower; Paint yourself Blue.
Drink nothing but water.
Contemplate the experience.

33-7 hours before-

Same as above + No food (One light meal of fresh fruit or rice may be eaten during this period)

3-1 hours before-

Same as above + No water or other drink (One small glass of water may be drank)

5-15m before-

Prepare a snack of fresh fruit and wild or white rice with butter and oil.
Pre-roll a small joint or pack a small bowl/cone, prepare the area, make sure everything is ready.
Release all bodily waste and fluids.
Shake/stir Ayahuasca before use.

The Trip-

Drink Aya’ quickly along with a small glass of water, if desired.
Attempt to keep Aya’ down at least 1-2 hour, or as long as you can.
Ingest mint and/or ginger (Anti-nausea) if desired.
Smoke cannabis (Anti-nausea) if desired.
Consume the MAOI safe food, if desired.
Run around naked and make strange noises.
Be sure to drink a glass of water or juice to re-hydrate yourself after 1-2 hours or just after the purge.


Some good things to eat during the strictest periods of dieting are-

Plain white rice, wild rice, etc.
Freshly caught fish (Never frozen or out-dated)
Fresh Raw Fruits and Vegetables


How to Detox-

Sweat-Lodge
Water, Herb or Ayahuasca Enema
Pumice and Soap Scrubs, Hot Showers/Baths
Lots of Exersice
Ingestion of "Detox" herbals- Reishi mushrooms, Kombucha, Green/White Teas, Cranberry Juice, etc. (anybody know of anymore?)
Waxing or Removal of Body Hair


some members report Ayahuasca is good on a slightly full stomach.

Any help and/or tips are welcomed!
 
Ayahuasca only contains weak RIMAs, not full blown MAOIs. RIMAs do not require dietary restrictions. That’s a scientific fact.

That is why I don't believe in such ayahuasca diets. I think its nonsense. SWIM violates nearly all that crap all the time and takes ayahuasca on the same day and has a marvelous time.

You should look at the REAL ayahuasca diets used by shamans. They are totally unrelated to MAOI diets, they are instead designed to give you a good trip. If you’re going to follow any diet at all, follow the real one the shamans use. MAOI diets are not for RIMAs!
 
'Coatl, I think your list is a bit of non-sense.

Would you like to give some further explanations i.e. why follow the specific diet you suggest and why around this this time-table? Why start 33 days before and extend it to 33 days later?

What happens if one starts the diet 32 days before and ends up 30.5 days later?

You must have found out about those numbers somehow (experience?) if you have the confidence to suggest them to other people, right?
 
The number (the exact numbers) such as "33" days were choosen simply because they are numbers with some sort of meaning (such as 7) and the give a general amount of time...you could do 29 days or whatever as long as it's close to the same amount of time.

I think people should be off all medications and anti-depressants at least 30 days before doing Aya'.

69ron could you post a real shaman's Ayahuasca diet?
 
[quote='Coatl]The number (the exact numbers) such as "33" days were choosen simply because they are numbers with some sort of meaning (such as 7) and the give a general amount of time...you could do 29 days or whatever as long as it's close to the same amount of time.[/quote]
For me, the number 0.00000000384729048573907673 is a number of really serious meaning. Should I start the aya diet at 0.00000000384729048573907673 days?

If not, how can I implement this number to my ayahuasca preparation diet?
 
it depends a lot on the area and on the shaman him/herself. The main most spread ayahuasca diet (which does not mean the best one) is based on manioc (which can be eaten in a variety of ways, made flour of, or sort of like potato, and so on). At most there is a little fish together.. They dont eat salt, nor sugar, nor sex, nor alcohol..

BUT.. there are big exceptions.. there are indigenous tribes that drink alcohol together with ayahuasca, or that dont care for these diets, or so on..

I have my own opinion about this, which is basically that its all about being healthy. Its not about MAOIs (as 69ron said), and its not about anything spiritual, and its neither about doing it only before taking entheogens. What ayahuasca and other entheogens tell me is that I have to be healthy in life, in general. I eat before tripping the exact same thing I eat every day: Fresh food, no meat, no industrialized stuff, whole-wheat, whole rice, whole everything...

Its all about having respect for one's body.. No need to be fanatical about it. Just a little of good sense and everybody can see what should or should not be eaten in general.. Thats what I think at least...
 
For me, the number 0.00000000384729048573907673 is a number of really serious meaning. Should I start the aya diet at 0.00000000384729048573907673 days?

If not, how can I implement this number to my ayahuasca preparation diet?
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I thought I explained this... should you not wait around 30 days after being off anti-depressants to take Ayahuasca?

I simply choose 33 because it's slightly longer and just wanted to be safe...

Now... should they began taking anti-depressant again 3 days after their Ayahuasca trip? I think not... hence 33 days after as well...

You can choose whatever number you want, but choose one that makes sense, go ahead and take some ephedrine, kanna, zoloft 0.00000000384729048573907673 days before ayahuasca, have fun.

I have my own opinion about this, which is basically that its all about being healthy. Its not about MAOIs (as 69ron said), and its not about anything spiritual, and its neither about doing it only before taking entheogens. What ayahuasca and other entheogens tell me is that I have to be healthy in life, in general. I eat before tripping the exact same thing I eat every day: Fresh food, no meat, no industrialized stuff, whole-wheat, whole rice, whole everything...
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I think it is spiritual, fasting and giving up things you like is good for you, and I think the Ayahuasca works better if you have good foods in you.
 
Giving up things you like can be a tool, yes.. but not necessarily it will be a good and productive and healthy one, unless one really focusses the energy in a conscious way to something productive.. thats why I dont think that fasting in general is recommended to everyone. Fasting was always used very carefully in ancient practices.

I think the most important aspect of ayahuasca fasting is the health of the human being, having a well-treated digestive system, and ayahuasca will be fine with you. Its just a little good sense. but if one feels its necessary to make a special diet, then do what your instincts tell you. Each one has his own way.
 
while I do think that the diet would be good for sentitizing oneself to the effects of anything...69ron is right, look at what the actual amazonians do...I have read too many threads reporting on the fact that they actually drink coffee right before the ceremony. anyways, i do tend to say away from stimulants the day of cappi or rue, i dont always stay away from tyramine completely, or really fast, and have never had problems..I eat healthy everyday now anyway..
 
Not only do some of them drink coffee, but some ayahuasca has caffeine containing plants added to it! Some even add some plants that contain nicotine, scopolamine, and all sorts of other toxic drugs!
 
The point is I think to clear those things out of the system is healthy, I'm not saying fast alot but I'm going to follow my diet.

Surely y'all agree with not ingesting

And finally... is there any danger in giving somebody Ayahuasca? I try to tell myself that no harm could come to anyone that drank Ayahuasca... but reassure me.

This time I really am worried about a friend, not myself... I suppose a good ole freak out is the only bad thing that could happen?
 
I have only heard of one death that had aya involved..and it was in canada, Ontario I think..and it was a result of wayyy to much nicotine in the brew..like very overly excessive ammounts, and the woman was very old, could have jsut bin her time..
 
I've heard about that... there will be nothing but Caapi, Psychotria and Diplopterys in this brew, like always.

I'm still a little worried tho...

I always have people sign this-


I ______________________ understand that I am going to ingest an entheogenic substance, and do so by my own free will.




I ______________________ take full responsibility for any of the effects that the entheogenic substance has on my mind or body.




I ______________________ take full responsibility for any harm I may do to myself or others while on the influence of the entheogenic substance.




I ______________________ do not hold anyone responsible, other than myself for the effects of the entheogenic substance.




I ______________________ understand that the entheogenic substance was prepared in the best possible manner, yet also understand that the effects are variable and an experience is not guaranteed.




Print Name X __________________________





Date X __________________________





Signature X __________________________
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Who knows if its worth a damn.... can y'all think of anything to add to it to make it better? Any ideas or thoughts on this?
 
I'll be totally safe with Beer + THH + Diplopterys + Cocoa, right?

Just checking...
 
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