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Dwhitty76

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Hey, all
After swims first experiences w/Dmt.The pull down to the amazon to experience ayahuasca is strong.The good thing is,is that i have some vaca time coming to me:d and can take some time off from work.I've been doing a little reaserch and have found a few different outfits down there running retreaets (a little on the pricey side if you ask me) and price is not the real issue.I would like to get some feedback from some other who'm have made this journey down to the amazon so i might be pointed in the right direction. Thanx -D
 
Congrats for making the decision to give that a go. I am saving my $$ and leave for a trip myself, I will start organising it when I have the money to spend and not before. Anyway my take on the situation down there is as follows: The average yearly wage in Peru is $4000 ish, so when you get someone telling you that they will look after you for 2 weeks for $2500+ I think to myself "someone is making a killing for being able to speak Spanish" I bet the locals don't actually see much of that outlay.
Sure there are yahoos who likely are not the real deal but they want the gringo cash. From my perspective I would rather avoid that and find someone who has a bit more integrity and actual knowledge, its obviously not easy with 4 weeks annual leave, to spend the time while there getting to know "what's going on" but personally I would rather do that than spend big bucks for an ayahuasca tour company to give me a 4 star holiday in the jungle. It is an adventure after all.
I don't have time to spend getting to know "what's going on" in Iquitos with my limited time budget so I have spent a fair amount of time researching trying to find out what a good going rate is, where to stay etc.
Check out these forums http://forums.ayahuasca.com/phpbb/ there is a lot of good information in there if you can get past some of those huge ego's and "my dick is bigger than yours, bitch fights" its not really that bad but worse than some :?
The connections and events is a good spot to look for info on what you are thinking of. I saw one thread which mentioned a curandero who charged $350 a week for food/lodging and aya while partaking in the dieta and apparently he was charging a premium ?? To me that seems much more reasonable than any Aya tour that someone else would take you on at 5 times the price. You need to get in contact with these guys your self which can be challenging but more and more of them have got e-mail so you just need to put in some research.
 
thanks for the tip,fable. I will look into that forum you mentioned and i wtll definately ignore the attitudes (Thanx for the heads up).Also if you are planning a trip,keep me posted, i might want to get in on that. Thanx. D
 
i've been doing a little mre rearch and have been corresponding with DR. rick Strassman (the spirit molecule) and he highly recommends this one in peru called "the spirit of anaconda". I recently eamiled to find out prices but the website and info seemed a little less glittery than the other but i'll let you all know.
 
Dwhitty76 said:
i've been doing a little mre rearch and have been corresponding with DR. rick Strassman (the spirit molecule) and he highly recommends this one in peru called "the spirit of anaconda". I recently eamiled to find out prices but the website and info seemed a little less glittery than the other but i'll let you all know.
Espiritu de Anaconda is were Shipibo shaman Guillermo Arevalo works, also known as Ketsembetsa. I was there in 2007. Did you know that he was the shaman in blueberry, the film by Jan Kounen, which I actually met at espiritu de anaconda. He has built his own house there.

Here is a clip from the movie.
You might have seen it before.

As for the price at espiritu de anaconda. I think it was 50$ for lodging per night and 20$ per time drinking ayahuasca. That is almost 500 dollar per week.

The one mentioned that takes 350$ per week is probably Percy Garcia. Both Percy and Guillermo has an e-mail address.

There is quite a few shamans in Iquitos. One american guy there is Ron Wheelock, he takes donations.
 
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