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Ayahuasca with Lion’s Mane, Shiitake Mushroom, Cordyceps Mushroom, Chaga Mushroom, and Reishi Mushroom
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Can I ask what your thought process is behind this? What’s the goal and intent?
But in short, I don’t personally see the point chemically nor spiritually. And never heard of anyone talking about it. I wouldn’t. Maybe look into more known ad mixtures to aya.
If any of those 5 mushrooms affect serotonin at significant degree, it may even be potentially unsafe.
But in short, I don’t personally see the point chemically nor spiritually. And never heard of anyone talking about it. I wouldn’t. Maybe look into more known ad mixtures to aya.
If any of those 5 mushrooms affect serotonin at significant degree, it may even be potentially unsafe.
Hi Izi,
The why is important to have a meaningful discussion on the subject, so please elaborate on your thoughts and ideas a bit.
Sabnock1990
Be Your Own Shaman
You'd be surprised lol. Ime, i tend to see things like this in the way that traditionally shamans would see admixture plants with Ayahuasca. Aya seems to be a lot about synergy, and can teach you alot about other plants and what things do in the body, so if you mix certain plants with the Aya, even a few different plants in combination, they can work in synergy and provide other benefits that you wouldn't get from a basic Aya brew. I myself am always mixing different things with at least Harmalas to add some other benefits to the mix, or to take away certain side-effects, i haven't found there to be much risk at all, if any, so long as you don't mix the wrong things lol.
As for this combination, i haven't really gotten into medicinal/edible mushrooms yet, i have tried Lions Mane for a few weeks when i ordered some from Paul Stamets site one time, i didn't take it with the Rue but i did take it on days i took the Rue, but at the time had a lot of other things going on so couldn't tell if the Lions Mane did anything or not. But medicinal/edible mushrooms with Aya in my view definitely wouldn't present any risks, afaik there's nothing those mushrooms would do that would be contraindicated with say the MAO-A inhibition for example.
The thing i've found to be most noticeable when mixing things with Aya (particularly with DMT included) is that some things may "get in the way" of the DMT portion, but can go just fine with the Harmala portion, so i'm more on the lookout for what may interfere, because so far i haven't found anything to be particularly risky, though i would recommend steering clear of anything that potently inhibits reuptake of Serotonin for example, or say heavy doses of stimulants or something (due to the Noradrenaline), but other than that i don't think there's much out there that will truly negatively interact with Aya, to me Aya seems extremely safe and nowhere near as risky pharmacologically-speaking as people tend to think.
I for one say go for it and try the combo out, i can't think of any reason one should avoid it, but idk if there'd be any benefit to it, but as an admixture-loving guy, i'd say it's worth the experimentation to see what all different things may do in combination with Aya (with or without DMT), because there's so much potential there depending on what is in the mix, we can have many different "flavors" and variations of Aya for different purposes.
But yeah as far as having a mindblowing experience goes, just Aya will be enough, admixtures are optional and experimental.
I would love to chime in here since it's really important to know, if only for the ease of your own mindset that while on aya, what you have combined is actually a truly safe combination.
If you ever had a mild attack of serotonin syndrome you would understand how even a 'mild' attack is so powerfull and painful that you would think thrice before taking a combination of substances again without soundly performing your mandatory health and safety checks.
Really peeps, serotonin syndrome is incredibly harsh and painful (and can even be deadly) and it stays in your system for a much longer time than you ever would wish for.
So please, check all ingredients well before going on this route! It's the ethos of this site to promote harm reduction, so advice like 'just try it and see how it will go' is not the brightest advice in this case.
Also mushrooms into the aya with MAOI mix? This might make for an extremely strong journey and you might even just pass out with no memory of the journey at all when you come by again.
And why all the rush anyway? Psychedelics usually do not work that way. You need time to learn to navigate hyperspace, learn how to handle for example your body utterly protesting for its life at moments you are at the verge of breaking down, by learning how to release pressure, de-escalate and letting go are nice tools to learn when you start low and work your way up (and finally get that bitchslap in hyperspace
).Kind regards,
The Traveler
Sabnock1990
Be Your Own Shaman
^ Seconded, definitely make sure beforehand that anything one is consuming is safe to consume alongside something like MAO-A inhibition, Serotonin Syndrome definitely isn't a joke (have had it myself back in the day from pharma meds). With that said, so far, personally i haven't come across anything with negative interactions and i try to steer clear of things that i likely shouldn't mix with this stuff, but i do try to make sure of what properties an herb or what not has before mixing. I don't recommend the random mixing of things without having some clue as to potential interactions, even then there's only so much that's been studied/documented about things so far so some things are just new territory and depending on what it is could be risky. So i just want to make sure that people know to do their research as much as possible before mixing anything together in order to avoid potential negative outcomes, but other than that i've found Harmalas to be quite safe and so long as a few simple precautions are followed one can avoid most negative interactions, still though some things are just unexplored territory and one doesn't know how one might respond/react until they get in there, so i generally don't recommend mixing things unless one is experienced enough to go that route, particularly when it comes to having a Psychedelic component in the mix because you don't wanna freak yourself out thinking something you've taken is unsafe, ideally when it comes to something like edible mushrooms or other herbals, i would recommend try things out without a Psychedelic component in the mix, at least at first, just to make sure there's no weird interactions. Safety first 
Lion's Mane is a great edible and fairly straightforward to grow. It would be wise to familiarise yourself with each of the individual components of the plan one by one, rather than just throwing it all into the pot at once and hoping for the best. Intentional catastrophes can be a bit of a roll of the dice, although there is perhaps something of a knack to them. YMMV.
Can somebody quote the reddit post, for the sake of convenience, please?
Can somebody quote the reddit post, for the sake of convenience, please?