KaiserSausy: I understand what you mean and can contemplate how amaything it would be to just let it be.  Isnt thats what life is all about anyway????     I will defentely try it when I get a change!

Unofortunatly my experiences are few and far appart so for that reason to try to make the most out of the jourey inward (this are guided weekend smeniar work) we are instructed to "try" to put a purpose.

But at the end it is the abulelita (the grandmother) who decides were you go... :lol:  And it is great and so wise and so caring...  I have but the upmost respect for the wisdom you come in contact with though the experience...  It has teached me so much...

I guess in a way I have been thought to consider every ayahuasca experience as sacred.  And I do. It truly makes it magical and opens the door for amaything things to happen.

But most of all it has cemented me as a student.  It seems the ego erroneoulsy strives for illumination in order to satisfy recognition.  I have therefore slowed down my search and humbly will remain a student forever..  Only way to assure I keep on learning..   Which sounds good and all but it is as long as its not the ego again trying to pretend you are so cool and wise...  :twisted:

You have to be very carefull with the sneaky one... Its more cleaver that Mc Gyver.

Changalvia: Thanks for your port. I am new to this type of communication so I was not sure if my post was a little aquard. I guess I explained allot but at the same time I wonder if did communicate anything at least of interest to others.  So both KaiserSausy and your post felt like a nice glass of ice water in a desert.  Very refreshing indeed!

Funny that you mention about the reversal of opinions when it comes to oral vs smoking.  This is one of thing that after joining this forum has intrigue me a little.

OK the issue is this.  After my first experience, I developed a deep respect, and caution for the substance.  I mean I really understood first hand the power we were talking about.    My prior experinces with LSD were like children bed time stories compared to this.  So from that experience I always have remain very cautious about going up to crusing speed. Once there I have an amazing time.  But getting there Im always unconfortable.  I guess its really the ego trying to keep its rains on control. And he hates when reality desintegrates.  Nothing worse to him than to be desintegrated.. It is funny to say this but in a way I (or better said my ego) really dont like aya.  But what my ego really does not like is the desintegration / loosing control.

So what do I do?  I push his limits. I know he does not like it but that wont stop me and I still give it to him.   In a way my ego and me have a much better relationship since I introduced aya.  He knows that If I set my mind to it, he will never hear the end of it. So for that reason he has become a much more carefull and dosile companion...   

In a way I guess it could be summed up as fear of the unkown.

Lately is has been better though.  Last couple of aya I have been able to surrender more to the experience and dont see it that much as a thread.  I guess Im more confortable to let it be..

Now in smoking it I can imagine you go to a similar place but in a matter of seconds.  That must be one hell of a ride!!   I have great respect for those who dare. But for the same reason my cautious / controling side kicks in...

I still dont understand why people that smoke it might be hesitant of ingesting it.  Isnt it the same place they go to?

And I fully understand the time issue. To do it oraly you really need a whole weekend...  That is probably the main reason I do it only a couple of times per year.  That and the fact that I live in Norway and they would burn me inquisition stile if they found out about my inner searches!!

I have not read anything about smoking it so I cant asses.  Would be great to read a comparison.  I have read of people drinking it and then a little later smoking it and it just blows my mind!!  I guess theirs too...

When it comes to preserving it, here is a dilema.  I hear that MHRB has a problem with DMT oxidising into DMT n-oxide.  But I also heard that for oral consumption DMT n-oxide is water soluble so at the end there is really no DMT loss in the brew.  This will mean that for oral ingestion there is really no loss of potency?  With this info it seems for "oral" the MHRB has an indefenit shelf life.  At least this is what I have been let to beleive by the FAQ.

Im curious though, why do you say that the bark will last longer if used for smoking?

And as you can probably guess my curiosity is having a field day!!!!  :thumb_up:

Thanks again!