Best Mix for Visual Experience of Harmalas Alone?

[Sky Motion]

Have all 3 in Freebase. Thoughts on mixes or dosing levels for solo experiences? Looking for decent visuals at least.
This came recommended for me specifically with some research -

Harmine + THH (safest AND still extremely visual)

This is the ideal option for your specific needs:

Strong visuals
No harmaline
Emotional depth
Smooth headspace
Zero GABA-A interference
Less nausea

Why

• Harmine gives clear introspection and harmala “vision logic.”
• THH adds color, softness, and serotonergic glow.

• Fluid geometry
• Pastel fractals
• Scene-like dream images
• Symbolic or emotional visions
• Kaleidoscopic interiors
• Faces, archetypes, mythological themes

Many people say this combo produces:

“Ayahuasca without the terror, and without DMT’s speed.”

High-dose Visual Protocol (Harmine + THH)

• Harmine: 120–160 mg
• THH: 250–350 mg

This is the strongest psychedelic experience possible without harmaline.

Visual

• Emotional
• Psychologically deep
• Smooth
• Neuro-safe

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[universecannon]

Harmalas can be visionary be they aren't really classically visual in the typical psychedelic way for me. I need solid doses, laying down in preferably silent darkness, and it's like an increasingly visual hypnagogic dream trance. It can take practice to get to the more interesting stuff/visions/OBEs but it's not like tryptamines for myself.

"Smooth headspace" might not be the best way to describe it. There's an emotional blanket to it for me but it can also feel quite schizophrenic at times as thoughts unbraid into different paths simultaneously seen/felt. That said I don't have any experience with isolated THH.

If you're after those types of visuals you might want to add a but of smoked DMT to the experience.

 

[blig-blug]

I think it depends a lot on personal sensitivity and predisposition. My girlfriend has had strong, psychedelic-style visuals (think of a moving, morphing stained glass scene) from harmalas alone (extracted from rue) one time we accidentally swapped doses. While I've only had faint CEVs and dreamlike internal hallucinations.

 

[LoveBlanket]

Thanks, very interesting

Why / How is Harmaline undesirable ?
That much THH ? How does it feel ? I usually dose it like no more than 100mg at once with THH, usually more 30/60mg
I'm very curious
Would the freebase form of THH be useful orally too or is it only to be vaped / smoked ?
Any tips to smoke the THH freebase ? it seems pretty tricky

 

[blig-blug]

Why / How is Harmaline undesirable ?

It's not undesirable. Some people dislike it because it can cause dizziness, as it often creates the feeling of spinning at high speed, and/or flying. I personally like it, I've seen that you can get used to it and enjoy that effect much as you would enjoy a park ride. IME the nausea that may come from that effect comes actually from resisting it, but it may be different for others.

 

[dithyramb]

Harmaline is the most visual among the three. İf you are aiming at visuals, try including harmaline, in a reasonable dose of your choice.

 

[Sakkadelic]

That much THH ?

Yes, THH is weaker than harmine and harmaline

Would the freebase form of THH be useful orally too or is it only to be vaped / smoked ?
Any tips to smoke the THH freebase ? it seems pretty tricky

Freebase works orally just as well, a small dose adjustment is needed as the freebase is lighter. 1g freebase is roughly equivalent to 1.15g HCl salt.

You can smoke harmala freebase powder by sprinkling it on weed in a joint or a bong. If you'd like to smoke it alone you can use an inert herb, or infuse it for a dmt free changa.

 

[Transform]

If it's visionary-type effects you're after but without DMT, I'd definitely agree that a solid proportion of harmaline is essential. Regardless of the blend you finally come up with, my own experiences, as well as those I've read from others, appear to indicate that there's a hidden element of variability determined by factors such as time of day and one' personal metabolic status - which, incidentally, seems to be an aspect that the shamanic dieta may be intended to address, among other things.

 

[Sky Motion]

Harmaline is the most visual among the three. İf you are aiming at visuals, try including harmaline, in a reasonable dose of your choice.

I can't because of benzo tapering and it being the only harmala that acts on GABA receptors.

 

[dithyramb]

Benzo tapering? İ am not familiar with what that exactly means, but I would guess that harmaline wouldn't have negative effects. Ask around here to get a more precise picture.

 

[Pumpy]

Benzo tapering? İ am not familiar with what that exactly means

It's possible to have such an insane tolerance to chronic benzo(diazepine) use that medical staff have to taper down the dose in a very tightly controlled fashion to avoid complications, much like some ssris i think. It can take months sometimes

 

[Animistic]

My reliable dose for harmala visions is around 300mg of extracted harmala freebase from rue which is about 5-7g raw. It's accompanied by dizziness, nausea and auditory hallucinations too though. I'm still not sure if they're true auditory hallucinations or just either amplifying or just not filtering sounds that already exist. It's not super comfortable if you're not used to it. I haven't worked with THH outside of whatever is on my caapi brews.

 

[modern]

I had a complete vision (trip) at around 1g harmalas but caused heavy humming auditory effects body was VERY heavy almost couch lock but once moving also hard to stop with mild nausea. Very strong color saturation and brightness. Once I meditated a little had a actual vision similar to Ayahuasca.

I was taking a full caapi tea and 1g was an estimate based on extraction of the tea. May have been a bit lower but was very high dose.

As far caapi the ratio is much heavier on harmine and thh with harmaline usually being the lowest of the three.