Big Lazy full spectrum Rue

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

Have done a few smaller full spectrum Syrian Rue extractions via Gibran2's great tek here Easy Caapi Vine Alkaloid Extraction Guide - DMT-Nexus Wiki


Easy as pie!

I have found the longer you wait for things to settle, the better the results. So I figured I would start a pic log of a larger extraction of Rue alks and give a little play by play for those who are interested.

Starting with 2lbs of Rue, soak in white vinegar (5% acidity) for 1 week.


More to follow next week!

 

[Shadowman-x]

1 week is quite a long time for a soak. Why nto just do 3 boils for half an hour each? Much easier.

 

[embracethevoid]

How efficient is a CWE compared to boiling? Supposing I did a week long vinegar soak of ground up rue and followed along with the Gibran tek, would the yield be significantly less than the boiled method?

Reason being that rue really raises a stink when boiled which makes it difficult for me to boil it without prior planning.

 

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

As you can see, they expanded quite a bit over the last week. They are soft and rupture easily between thumb and forefinger. 6 gallons of 5% acetic acid white vinegar total.

Blended them up, and let the boiling and reducing proceed! Total mayhem in the kitchen and the wife is looking at me sideways. Uh oh.

Also, I don't know why these photos insist on posting sideways. Sigh.

 

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

Cooled over night. Set into two large pickle jars. pH is 3 to 4 range. Time to add the sodium hydroxide water finally.

 

[Lost travellier]

Much tasty all look! Tell us as will be a total % .

I just am going to to extract Syrian Rue seeds again. Shall Try this method...

 

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

Based to pH 11 to 12. The settling has started already. I will let it ride for a week at this point, I hope sitting in higher pH solution does not break down the harmalas.

 

[embracethevoid]

Good stuff, let us know final % yield please!

 

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

Did 4 washes on the based solution. As you can see, one of them came out significantly dirtier than the other. Instead of washing it again, I decided to "let it ride" as is. It will be an interesting experiment to see if it effects the filtering stage after acidification.


You see a small fishtank airpump I use to vibratory settle the solutions faster. Seems to work good.


Solution acidified to pH 3-4 with vinegar and now... let it settle for another week. It is worth noting that I haven't filtered the solution yet. Not more than a coarse filtering in the extracting phase with a cheap plastic permanent coffee filter. That I just pushed down into the brew and ladled out the fluid that drained in. NO significant filtering...yet.


As you can see, the particulate matter is settling out of the acidified solution already. This is after approx 5 minutes after addition of vinegar.

 

[AluminumFoilRobots]

Interesting! I'll be watching this thread, as I have been starting my research on harmala extraction lately. I have been interested in talking about full-spectrum extractions, as I'm not really too afraid of vasicinone and the other secondary alkaloids... I have a good relationship with harmala, and I want as much of the natural chemical complexity to come through in the extraction.

 

[Kash]

Great work keep it up! And omg you werent joking about mayhem in the kitchen lol.



I did a full extraction of rue awhile back and ended up freeze precipitating some off-white fluffy solids from nonpolar. I am not really sure if it was freebase harmala but it turned solutions a fluorescent blue green under black light.

Want to experiment with it again soon and will defnitly follow your post.

 

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

So, I let the precipitates settle, and turkey-baster'd it from the large jars to a larger glass bowl. It was hard to see in that lousy pic below, but the precipitates from the acidification stage settled out in the bottom leaving ruby-clear liquid which was quite quick and easy to filter.

You see the small wad of crumpled coffee filters I used for this stage. I stacked them 3 thick, took about 9 filters in total.

The remaining sludge was poured into a cut off jug and will drip filter. It is very dirty since this is the first real filtration step I have done. I will perform another acid to base on this and the seeds which are still sitting in acidic water to squeeze every bit of useful alkaloids out.

For now, I re-based the truly filtered solution and it is settling nicely in the background.

Editorial: goddamn pics are upside down this time... for no apparent reason. Sorry bout that.

 

[Hyperdimensional Cuttlefish]

One last update: total yield dry was 58g. Not too bad!