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tele, perhaps I am not conveying properly HOW different it was from a normal DMT trip - and all three of us reported the SAME unusual effects which were

1 - the body feeling was on of inebriation and not the usual vibrational buzzing, so much so that I actually stumbled about and dropped the machine on the grass. That could be construed in normal DMT way, but take my word I had never gotten that distinct stumbly drunk feeling from DMT (however I had 1-2 beers before this, so that would SEEM to account for it, but my companions also reported it.

2- The visuals were NOT normal. You said that DMT can be anything, which I agree to an extent, but not to the extent that it can have visual effects that are outside of it's range... I've gone into hyperspace at least 25 times with FB, which isn't a lot by any means - but certainly enough to know what it looked like all those other times.T The visuals were extremely angular and consisted of entirely straight lines. Normally DMT is flowing, reticulating, morphing and re-forming into highly intricate and seemingly ALIVE space - this trip had none of that. The visuals consisted entirely of these hard, trasparent, straight lines and sharp angles. There wasn't even alot going on except this shattered visual stuff...

*sigh* I guess I'm having a really hard time describing how this was entirely different than a normal DMT trip... I mean, have you had visuals that consisted entirely of a single transparent shape? It was like this :
/__________________\
\__________________/ lol OK so thats another terrible rendition!

Anyway, I shelved this batch of green DMT until I got some replies around these parts....

tele! I promise it was weird and unusual!! I'm not entirely inexperienced, and have around 25 or so reference points...! But you know, since you mentioned the orange/white spice and that you believe there is a difference - I just remembered that the last 2 pulls were with many-times reused naphtha which was yellow tinted and evapped down to about 1/5th of the original volume. On top of the precipitation was a patch of orange oils (jungle Spice?) Which was mixed in with the rest of it... this might account for the effects, but reading jungle or Jimjam reports and they still sound like DMT experiences.

Anyway, thank for the reply. I'm not too worried, as the experience was by no means malicious or dark at all - it was just really atypical but hey this IS DMT we are talking about... I mean, I'd rather have weird straight lines and hard angles flying around me than one of those "dark" hyperspace trips

<blockquote data-quote="AluminumFoilRobots" data-source="post: 3555491" data-attributes="member: 3750">tele, perhaps I am not conveying properly HOW different it was from a normal DMT trip - and all three of us reported the SAME unusual effects which were 1 - the body feeling was on of inebriation and not the usual vibrational buzzing, so much so that I actually stumbled about and dropped the machine on the grass. That could be construed in&nbsp; normal DMT way, but take my word I had never gotten that distinct stumbly drunk feeling from DMT (however I had 1-2 beers before this, so that would SEEM to account for it, but my companions also reported it.2- The visuals were NOT normal. You said that DMT can be anything, which I agree to an extent, but not to the extent that it can have visual effects that are outside of it&#039;s range... I&#039;ve gone into hyperspace at least 25 times with FB, which isn&#039;t a lot by any means - but certainly enough to know what it looked like all those other times.T The visuals were extremely angular and consisted of entirely straight lines.&nbsp; Normally DMT is flowing, reticulating, morphing and re-forming into highly intricate and seemingly ALIVE space - this trip had none of that. The visuals consisted entirely of these hard, trasparent, straight lines and sharp angles. There wasn&#039;t even alot going on except this shattered visual stuff... *sigh* I guess I&#039;m having a really hard time describing how this was entirely different than a normal DMT trip... I mean, have you had visuals that consisted entirely of a single transparent shape? It was like this :/__________________\ \__________________/&nbsp; lol OK so thats another terrible rendition! Anyway, I shelved this batch of green DMT until I got some replies around these parts....tele! I promise it was weird and unusual!!&nbsp; I&#039;m not entirely inexperienced, and have around 25 or so reference points...! But you know, since you mentioned the orange/white spice and that you believe there is a difference - I just remembered that the last 2 pulls were with many-times reused naphtha which was yellow tinted and evapped down to about 1/5th of the original volume. On top of the precipitation was a patch of orange oils (jungle Spice?) Which was mixed in with the rest of it... this might account for the effects, but reading jungle or Jimjam reports and they still sound like DMT experiences. Anyway, thank for the reply. I&#039;m not too worried, as the experience was by no means malicious or dark at all - it was just really atypical but hey this IS DMT we are talking about... I mean, I&#039;d rather have weird straight lines and hard angles flying around me than one of those &quot;dark&quot; hyperspace trips</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AluminumFoilRobots, post: 3555491, member: 3750"] tele, perhaps I am not conveying properly HOW different it was from a normal DMT trip - and all three of us reported the SAME unusual effects which were 1 - the body feeling was on of inebriation and not the usual vibrational buzzing, so much so that I actually stumbled about and dropped the machine on the grass. That could be construed in normal DMT way, but take my word I had never gotten that distinct stumbly drunk feeling from DMT (however I had 1-2 beers before this, so that would SEEM to account for it, but my companions also reported it. 2- The visuals were NOT normal. You said that DMT can be anything, which I agree to an extent, but not to the extent that it can have visual effects that are outside of it's range... I've gone into hyperspace at least 25 times with FB, which isn't a lot by any means - but certainly enough to know what it looked like all those other times.T The visuals were extremely angular and consisted of entirely straight lines. Normally DMT is flowing, reticulating, morphing and re-forming into highly intricate and seemingly ALIVE space - this trip had none of that. The visuals consisted entirely of these hard, trasparent, straight lines and sharp angles. There wasn't even alot going on except this shattered visual stuff... *sigh* I guess I'm having a really hard time describing how this was entirely different than a normal DMT trip... I mean, have you had visuals that consisted entirely of a single transparent shape? It was like this : /__________________\ \__________________/ lol OK so thats another terrible rendition! Anyway, I shelved this batch of green DMT until I got some replies around these parts.... tele! I promise it was weird and unusual!! I'm not entirely inexperienced, and have around 25 or so reference points...! But you know, since you mentioned the orange/white spice and that you believe there is a difference - I just remembered that the last 2 pulls were with many-times reused naphtha which was yellow tinted and evapped down to about 1/5th of the original volume. On top of the precipitation was a patch of orange oils (jungle Spice?) Which was mixed in with the rest of it... this might account for the effects, but reading jungle or Jimjam reports and they still sound like DMT experiences. Anyway, thank for the reply. I'm not too worried, as the experience was by no means malicious or dark at all - it was just really atypical but hey this IS DMT we are talking about... I mean, I'd rather have weird straight lines and hard angles flying around me than one of those "dark" hyperspace trips [/QUOTE]