Blacking out

[hummus]

So this was an experience I had what must be a good half year ago or more, almost all of the experiences I had at the time were bordering on breakthrough, incredibly intense and awe-inspiring experiences nonetheless, I 'left my body' (well it was still there as a conduit of my energy but just totally 'irrelevant'), entered the dome and saw brief encounters of entities, but from the descriptions of breakthroughs I've seen they didn't quite reach it.
I distinctly remember one 'experience' though, I'm pretty sure it was 70mg of DMT. Smoking it in a bong, I take a hit as large as possible, at that point it was exactly as the trips before; as I exhale the rising tryptamine energy and carrier tones, I take the second hit and I'm barely able to coordinate myself to take the hit; I distinctly remember the lighter diffusing into a mere glob of glowing energy. Somehow, I don't really know how, I took the third hit.
Up, up, up I went, passing at an amazingly fast rate, I see a great 'grating' of energy above me and I continue to accelerate towards it.
However many minutes later I realise that I had just smoked DMT and was conscious, still having the DMT course through my veins but not at breakthrough or near-breakthrough.
That time just simply didn't exist, totally blacked out and have never remembered any moments of it.
However, some time afterwards I had 'flashbacks' that I couldn't really attribute to anything, one I particularly remember is sort of being suspended in a large chamber of energy, in a body with coiled cords radiating from every point on this body to all around this chamber, supporting me and linking me into this structure, with huge surges of beautiful but calm vibrational energy. Another would be these 'beings' - I don't have direct memory of them being beings but I can only assume so; sort of shaped like musical notes or S shapes, I really can't describe them but they're extremely beautiful, they had this certain 'wobble'/'dance' to them which totally resonated with my being. I can only assume that this was from this experience and if so it must have been an unimaginably intense experience yet I have absolutely no direct memory of it.
I guess I'm just asking what is the cause of this - too high a dose? And I'd be really interested to know if I actually experienced that trip, and if so what happened to it, what changed inside of me and where that information may be.

 

[88]

I guess I'm just asking what is the cause of this - too high a dose? And I'd be really interested to know if I actually experienced that trip, and if so what happened to it, what changed inside of me and where that information may be.

good question. Everyone has a different threshold regarding dose, and it sounds like you've got the smoking technique down pat, but 70mg spice seems very large.

Journeys on larger doses, it's hard to bring anything back imo... but sure, it's got to be in your noggin somewhere, right? Such an intense experience, I wouldn't be surprised if it's 'leaking out' into your conscious mind some way or other.

My view is, whether the details that are coming to you 'happened' or not, roll with it, accept it, and see what it makes you think about. That's what I'd do.

 

[shoe]

some people tend to have such incredible breakthoughs that they don't remember it at all.
although, its never happened to me. (I don't even know how one could not remember such an exquisite space...)

you'll find your way with it

 

[Pandora]

hummus,

Fascinating report, especially the partial recovery of your memory, via "flashbacks." Wow, that sure sounds like breakthrough imagery to me.

Anyway, with respect, and of course, only speaking for myself, 70 mg is an overdose that produces such a cacophony and intensity of experience that I can usually bring almost nothing at all back. I suspect if you had dosed more like 40-55mg, you might have had more direct intact memories.

Have you taken DMT since this happened? Sometimes during a DMT journey I retrieve memories of previous journeys which were intact but previously inaccessible. . .

I frequently launch into a DMT journey asking for "learning and memory." He, he, I usually get them too.

I suspect it was simply too high a dose. Take it easy on yourself, maybe meditate, maybe journal these memory flashes as well as dreams and you'll have a chance of maximal recovery of this memory, given that you have some already. Regardless, I would not worry. Detailed memories for DMT experiences seem to be difficult to achieve.

Peace & Love,
Pandora

 

[ManifesT]

This happened to me the second time I smoked spice. Did it in a pitch black room with no music and I couldn't even remember exhaling, when I actually woke up I had no idea where I was, I thought I had been lost in some black abyss that was folding in on itself all around me. Had to eventually say "hello?" out loud to confirm I was back on the launch pad. This couldn't have been more than 50mg but I didn't have a scale at the time, got one immediately after though

 

[88]

I didn't have a scale at the time, got one immediately after though

Smart move ... I spent months eyeballing and was amazed when 0.001 scale arrived and I realised the actual size of the eyballed doses ... they tend to creep upwards. Seeking Precision, I've since found, is a very conducive state of mind for travelling.

 

[stevowitz]

I didn't have a scale at the time, got one immediately after though

Smart move ... I spent months eyeballing and was amazed when 0.001 scale arrived and I realised the actual size of the eyballed doses ... they tend to creep upwards. Seeking Precision, I've since found, is a very conducive state of mind for travelling.

(speaking as one without good scales yet)

I've noticed that with each minute difference in dose, which I'm obviously experiencing, it brings you to a whole new dimension...

what if we could "dial in" so to speak...with different levels of doses. I think that after a certain "guaranteed to get you there" dose was achieved someone could try recording multiple experiences on different incrementally higher doses. say...3 tries per increment(more?)

just a thought, I know hyperspace is pretty chaotic sometimes but I've personally experienced some trips that were very similar.

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