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Brain Malfunction on DMT?

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Chrono Temporal

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While watching the worst Wonder Showzen episode I've ever seen a skit comes on which is so nostalgic. It plays an audio of a computer or sound malfunction. It's quite hard to explain but I'm sure I heard it one time on DMT. It frightens me as it is the same same noise a broken machine makes. Can DMT or any drug brake the brain? I don't know.

To understand please watch it.
Here is the video, it can stream online so you don't need to download it.
Skip to 1:49.
Please watch and listen before assuming.

Did I go through something unique? Is it a cause for concern?
Thank you thank you.
 
aaron12321 said:
In a certain dubstep song i heard a sound which i heard on dmt , i love listening to it
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I get that also. But I don't like it. DMT ruined dubstep for me. Dudstep isn't a naturally produced sound, so what's going on in the brain that it would make something so unreal?

Still, back to my original query, because that sound is unholy terrifying.
 
Chrono Temporal said:
aaron12321 said:
In a certain dubstep song i heard a sound which i heard on dmt , i love listening to it
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I get that also. But I don't like it. DMT ruined dubstep for me. Dudstep isn't a naturally produced sound, so what's going on in the brain that it would make something so unreal?

Still, back to my original query, because that sound is unholy terrifying.
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I think our sense of what seems natural can be highly distorted. Perhaps if our ears were tuned into the frequencies that dogs or dolphins for example can hear, perhaps some of the sounds of dub step wouldn't seem so artificial. Also, besides "unnatural" sounds, hyperspace is also stock piled with all sorts of technologies from cogs and the sort to all kinds of indescribable technological, electronic, automated, computeristic elements.
 
Global said:
Chrono Temporal said:
aaron12321 said:
In a certain dubstep song i heard a sound which i heard on dmt , i love listening to it
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I get that also. But I don't like it. DMT ruined dubstep for me. Dudstep isn't a naturally produced sound, so what's going on in the brain that it would make something so unreal?

Still, back to my original query, because that sound is unholy terrifying.
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I think our sense of what seems natural can be highly distorted. Perhaps if our ears were tuned into the frequencies that dogs or dolphins for example can hear, perhaps some of the sounds of dub step wouldn't seem so artificial. Also, besides "unnatural" sounds, hyperspace is also stock piled with all sorts of technologies from cogs and the sort to all kinds of indescribable technological, electronic, automated, computeristic elements.
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Dubstep is the product of sound manipulation, by humans. So there's no way any creature could here it naturally. Though I get where you're coming from with this.

Did you listen to the audio in the tv show I posted? It's not like dubstep at all.

DMT might bring back the sounds you once heard, but this is like the sounds not working, like they're malfunctioning.
 
Ive heard it, and yeah its def familiar, also at the end of mars volta's "the widow" track there are similar crazy sounds. I dont think you have to assume dmt is breaking your brain. There has been enough research on dmt and anecdotal reports to show its pretty safe in terms of toxicity.

As for what is the source of this auditory phenomenon, hard to say.. There may be some physical explanation, related to feedback that generates some patterns of excitation of neurons, who knows.. Sometimes I like to imagine that it is the "Mother Ship" with the advanced technology scanning me and healing me :D

We maybe cant change the experience but we can change how we interpret the experience.. I rather take the phenomenon neutrally or take it as positive, then to have it generate fear and anxiety.
 
"Can DMT or any drug brake the brain? "

How do you mean break the brain? You meant scare the shit out of you, that months, years later a familar sound conjures up the memory of a bad experience? For the latter interpretation, I'm sure if the original trip was traumatic enough, it'll be firmly imprinted on your neural circuitry and could cause some stress in the future. But really,one doesn't have to watch or listen to that silly video, to know that.

If you choose to use this substance, you'll have to learn to " face the music" no matter whats dished up. But DMT isn't Meth or Coke or MDMA, it won't cause any detrimental degradation of your "neural network"

The above observation is my opinion only, I'd welcome feedback if I'm wrongly "assuming" something. Indeed I'd seriously consider stopping it if there was a danger of it breaking my brain!
 
endlessness said:
Ive heard it, and yeah its def familiar, also at the end of mars volta's "the widow" track there are similar crazy sounds. I dont think you have to assume dmt is breaking your brain. There has been enough research on dmt and anecdotal reports to show its pretty safe in terms of toxicity.

As for what is the source of this auditory phenomenon, hard to say.. There may be some physical explanation, related to feedback that generates some patterns of excitation of neurons, who knows.. Sometimes I like to imagine that it is the "Mother Ship" with the advanced technology scanning me and healing me :D

We maybe cant change the experience but we can change how we interpret the experience.. I rather take the phenomenon neutrally or take it as positive, then to have it generate fear and anxiety.
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Thank you for taking your time out to listen to the sound, and for making an informed decision on the matter.

Your interpretation is an imaginative one but not really something I can relate to. Mother ships and all that. But seeing as I'm normal, as far as I can tell, I'll label it as a freak occurrence and move on. Positivity and such.

The sound really is unsettling though, and the cause seemingly a mystery.
 
arcanum said:
"Can DMT or any drug brake the brain? "

How do you mean break the brain? You meant scare the shit out of you, that months, years later a familar sound conjures up the memory of a bad experience? For the latter interpretation, I'm sure if the original trip was traumatic enough, it'll be firmly imprinted on your neural circuitry and could cause some stress in the future. But really,one doesn't have to watch or listen to that silly video, to know that.

If you choose to use this substance, you'll have to learn to " face the music" no matter whats dished up. But DMT isn't Meth or Coke or MDMA, it won't cause any detrimental degradation of your "neural network"

The above observation is my opinion only, I'd welcome feedback if I'm wrongly "assuming" something. Indeed I'd seriously consider stopping it if there was a danger of it breaking my brain!
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Thank you also. My worry lies, not with a traumatic trigger, but with the fact that that sound is broken, it's not even a something that would be classed as a "sound". Like when a computer freezes, it's something it does, but it's not a function, it's a malfunction, only occurring when something is wrong. That should not be happening, unless DMT can and was emulating broken technology.

As with braking the brain, there's too many examples to write, but to put it simply, making the brain not work as it normally does (with the exception of known altered mind states).
In this case, the part of the brain that deals with sound and perceiving sound, not working properly.

I don't know though, I'm not an expert on drugs or the brain. My vocabulary is limited to layman's speak when dealing with this subject, that's why I said "braking the brain".
 
This same noise was going off in my head at the peak of the most intense Pharmahuasca experience I have ever had. I compared it to my brain being overloaded and short circuiting. The way I have described it until now, is the sound of a million computers connecting to dial up internet. I loved it actually. One of my most memorable experiences.

Definitely dont think it could ever be explained though, in scientific terms.. Which it will quite possibly remain a mystery forever.

Im quite excited to have seen that others have experienced this, or similar to my experience as well. :) I thought it was a very unique situation, and would never hear of it again.
n,n-DMT is so mystical, it seems to be one of the very few substances that many can experience literally some of EXACT same mysterious experiences. It is quite intriguing. :)

But yes, listen to Endlessness and his/her Endless expertise, as n,n-DMT should never be in your thoughts of concern, really the worst you could have happen as an effect of it, is fear or anxiety on the come up of an intense experience. :) So you are in the clear.
In fact, since that experience, being that it was one of the most self concluding, beautiful, longest lasting, dreamy experience of my life, it has made me entirely grateful from that day on. Ayahuasca will always be held in very high regards to me forever, and has for 10 years now, with the passion not subsiding in the slightest since I first came upon its wisdom.

May I ask you, what method of consumption of this DMT, did you experience this sound? ie. smoking, ayahuasca, etc.


Thanks for posting this.
To be honest when I saw the title of this thread, I thought, come on... Not another thread like this... Then I looked at what you originally posted and saw that it was far beyond the normal "Will DMT Kill me?!" or "Brain is ruined because of DMT now" or "Severe depression, hatred, anxiety after DMT" nonsense. Its a very unique situation, and I am glad you brought it to the forum, and gave others a chance to also indulge in their experiences being similar. :) Quite exciting actually. :)

Thanks.
Peace and Love you, and may the Spice guide your spirit.
Take Care.
 
insomnia said:
This same noise was going off in my head at the peak of the most intense Pharmahuasca experience I have ever had. I compared it to my brain being overloaded and short circuiting. The way I have described it until now, is the sound of a million computers connecting to dial up internet. I loved it actually. One of my most memorable experiences.

Definitely dont think it could ever be explained though, in scientific terms.. Which it will quite possibly remain a mystery forever.

Im quite excited to have seen that others have experienced this, or similar to my experience as well. :) I thought it was a very unique situation, and would never hear of it again.
n,n-DMT is so mystical, it seems to be one of the very few substances that many can experience literally some of EXACT same mysterious experiences. It is quite intriguing. :)

But yes, listen to Endlessness and his/her Endless expertise, as n,n-DMT should never be in your thoughts of concern, really the worst you could have happen as an effect of it, is fear or anxiety on the come up of an intense experience. :) So you are in the clear.
In fact, since that experience, being that it was one of the most self concluding, beautiful, longest lasting, dreamy experience of my life, it has made me entirely grateful from that day on. Ayahuasca will always be held in very high regards to me forever, and has for 10 years now, with the passion not subsiding in the slightest since I first came upon its wisdom.

May I ask you, what method of consumption of this DMT, did you experience this sound? ie. smoking, ayahuasca, etc.


Thanks for posting this.
To be honest when I saw the title of this thread, I thought, come on... Not another thread like this... Then I looked at what you originally posted and saw that it was far beyond the normal "Will DMT Kill me?!" or "Brain is ruined because of DMT now" or "Severe depression, hatred, anxiety after DMT" nonsense. Its a very unique situation, and I am glad you brought it to the forum, and gave others a chance to also indulge in their experiences being similar. :) Quite exciting actually. :)

Thanks.
Peace and Love you, and may the Spice guide your spirit.
Take Care.
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Thank you too. You have pretty good analogies for the event. I didn't know how to describe it.
I can't say for sure, but I think I experienced it on smoked spice, along with experiencing the inability to ascertain the effects of the trip. The audible jitters matched my thought patterns. So what happened at that moment I just don't know.

I've never read someone hearing what we've heard before neither. It's quite possible they'd tried to explain it but couldn't. It could happen very frequently, who knows. Drugs in general produce a select number of effects and side-effects, but users would experience them in their own way. I think, DMT affects the brain greater than the more causal softer substances, so DMT users are less likely to trip the same way. But there's a lot of research and information on the key aspects of DMT that users experience and find similar. Erowid org is a good place to start. Also here, the DMT Nexus.
 
I think it was the tv that gave you the malfunction.

That show (yes, I watched it!) gave me a malfunction of two. And tested my patience.

Seriously, tv is horrible stuff.
 
Bedazzle said:
I think it was the tv that gave you the malfunction.

That show (yes, I watched it!) gave me a malfunction of two. And tested my patience.

Seriously, tv is horrible stuff.
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The show is pretty good actually, I did say that episode was the worst didn't I?
It's aimed at kids to teach them things adults try to hide.
Such as:
Periods
Politics
Slavery
Wall St
(this kid lol...)
How Pigs are turned into Hotdogs



Anyways thanks guys again, I'm a little bit wiser now.
 
Bedazzle said:
I think it was the tv that gave you the malfunction.

That show (yes, I watched it!) gave me a malfunction of two. And tested my patience.

Seriously, tv is horrible stuff.
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I was no where near a TV when I experienced it.

And I agree 90% of TV is useless, but I dont think certain intelligent TV shows are "horrible"..
Like BBC's "Going Tribal" with Bruce Parry. You think that's "horrible stuff"?

Plus I have seen a lot of good shows on the Discovery channel, Discovery Science channel, etc.
Like shows about the Universe, and Supernova's, stuff like that. Furthest thing from "horrible stuff"..
 
I don't think its uncommon to hear or see something which is profoundly strange while on dmt but then pops up in sober life at some time or another.

I mean, we filter out most of what we COULD experience MOST of the time... So becoming aware of something disturbing while on DMT seems more like a FUNCTION than a malfunction to me. Even if it is a pretty messed up one.
 
The sound of bass line wobbles and all of that techno , is not artificial , the synthesis behind it requires electricity and analog circuits to produce the electronic sound , this is not an artificial noise , the sound is mechanical as a result of the electricity which is perfectly natural ...

The sounds from such music was originally inspired from such depths of the mind I rekon , not the other way round and it’s worth noting dubstep is not my first choice of music , as cliche as it sounds , actually my preferred is psytrance

Mechanical question and answer sounds , the grid line is what I’m driving at , so when people say I listen to dubstep when I launch makes me laugh as hyperspace has its own sound scape that is very technologically similar sometimes

Sometimes the sounds are pleasant , panning from left to right like the baseline wurbs of a LFO fx and sometimes , like you said , broken , or sounds like a fax machine gone bonkers , this is the sound I’ve been left with but very subtle in both ears but more so the left , please take care with smoked dmt , I feel this shouldn’t be extracted and done in this manner , unless you are 100% either on the Jain or Buddha path and want to refraine from bad desires etc etc , it requires all the steps to brake away from this material hell of samsara we have all found ourselves in ...so more so a path to follow is very inportain and the ancients were not wrong ! , this is very difficult in our western world and society since we have desirable things thrown at us all the time . So this experience requires a path and dedication of bettering the self in a non delusory way

I defentaly dig what Global has said , the sounds of animals and just to add how the insect kingdom magnetically navigate , the biotechnology of these creatures goes inconceivably insane , and the metaphysical sounds that go unheard could be the inner workings of its bieng ,
But to the point , yes the synthesiser is man made , but the sounds it creates is organic , since it’s analog sourced and requires the natural force that is electricity to power it ! The point that science has already mapped out the electromagnetic spectrum and created radios and televisions wireless devices from understanding the atom (then so had the Vedas) it seems as though they , the high end of the elite KNOWS all about hyperspace

I’m not a troll trying to put people off , becuase everyone should try it once ..... but only once , then work on yourself if it needs it , try a route to make it last longer and less intense with more preparation and also important to have a solid foundation to work from , ie knowledge of ancient India as an example , Jainism has seemed to mapped out hyperspace , which coincides with the Incan chakanna cross , but that’s for another topic , this is important because otherwise it leave one with ideas rather than knowledge , the ancients have been there and done it and YouTube is rife for ideaology and this clown/jester bieng one of them as a prime example ... I have seen sculptures of Aztec and Mayan deities that have been very jesteresqe ! But becuase some people don’t have any ancient knowledge the only things they have to go by is this medieval perception of a jester ! As an example !

Apologise for my grammar

Take care !!
 
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