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Breakthrough and survival....

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OH
MY
GOD
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so very frusterated with hit and miss attempts and endless fiddling with an attempt at the MKII.....

i did what i almost always do in that situation and say "FUCK IT!"

well let me tell you that i smoked agressivly with bong and for some reason thought i couldent see any vapor forming so i cleard my bong of a "FAILD" hit and holy shit dose not touch it....

i instantly felt the power of the hit i had taken and out of fear forcfuly blew it out after loike 15 seconds....

it was the single most massive hit i have taken of anything in my entire life.

the only word that comes close is FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FAST, FAST!!!!!

like in space balls how they pass ludacris speed and pass into plad.....

i left that way behind....
past light speed and into infinity....
i could not close my eyes cause i would instanly feel myself being thrown around like a rag doll by an angry 3 yr old with scissors....
i had no name and my body kept disolving and my heart was exploding out of my chest.

i thought i was dying.

my visuals consisted of strange shadow nome things running around me deconstructing everything in my room.
it just kept folding and fliping and spinning and reforming.

when i came out of it i felt like i had truly survived an ordeal.


done with the elf spice until my GVG arives next month because im not sure i could ever intagrate the maddness that just occured like a half hour ago
 
Simplistic Randamonium said:
i thought i was dying.

You don't say.

Simplistic Randamonium said:
done with the elf spice until my GVG arives next month because im not sure i could ever intagrate the maddness that just occured like a half hour ago

Why not try low or medium dose orally for a more manageable experience?
 
well,...
i do have like 300 mg of harmine from FV but i am nervous about the whole maoi thing....
i dont know.

i also have found only the constant theam of incredibly hard to dose, in the snce of milage
any advice for a first time attempt at pharma would be more than welcome

what can i say except WOW!!!
 
Simplistic Randamonium said:
well,...
i do have like 300 mg of harmine from FV but i am nervous about the whole maoi thing....
i dont know.

i also have found only the constant theam of incredibly hard to dose, in the snce of milage
any advice for a first time attempt at pharma would be more than welcome

what can i say except WOW!!!

why are you worried about the maoi thing? Harmine is a RIMA, (Reversible inhibitor of monoamine oxidase A).
 
well i have never inhibited any mao ever so am anxious about changing inportant body chemistry for the first time...

also not wanting to do this alon and am limited in a choice of "REAL" friends.

like my one friend just wont give up pills not even for a week because of tooth pain but wont go to a dentist....

my other friend is hesitant to comit to somthing like spice for more than 15-20 min.
this i understand but i can also get over it....
him not so easy....


some one told me to take 200 mg harmine and 100 mg spice 15 min apart...
another told me to take 150 mg harmine and 20 min later take 100 mg harmine + 50 mg spice

idea 2 seems to make the most sence.....

any body in central cali down for a journy im open to it....
if this invite is outa line im sorry and retract but if not........

any ways....

just reflecting on the madness and wondering what a GVG would bring to the lesson.

like i said,
feed back is very much appricated....

thanx
 
I still find myself easily overwhelmed by the quick onset and maximum intensity. I've peaked into the experience, but not broken through. It's insane how much is going on in the head.

I plan on overcoming and breaking through at some point (been sitting on spice for 5 months). But from the first day I smoked it I was nervous. My salvia breakthrough really left me timid of breaking through on a couple tokes of smoke. For now, I plan on getting some healing through cactus or aya before pushing further into pure spice. It's just such a potent unleashing of the mind, and I'm anything but stable. I know what you mean being thrown around like a ragdoll by a three year old.

That said, I still feel like I've received something of value on all my low doses. About 15 of them. Don't worry about MAOIs much, can't be bad as modern food, artificial colors and flavors preservatives, syrups, you know.
 
word up lavos.
im thinkin you are right about the harmalas.
and i totaly am with you on the salvia thing.
i have totaly gone off it cause it seems to me that it is to hard to controll...

hmmmm.

not sure if controll is right but i mean for me with salvia i never feel safe.
the confusion factor with salvia is so high that it is an unworkable expiercence.

i dont know what to make of what happend, it wasent panick exactly but more like what the fuck, what the fuck, what the fuck!!!!!!!

this sort of thing has never happend to me befor with the acceleration and spinning and flipping, and the complete lack of visual patterning or colors or anything els i would relate to spice....

in retrospect i would say it was like a salvia trip turned up to the 2,000th degree.
but less intence at the same time being that i was aware of my self in some vauge way and i never left my room into the elf space....

it was like instead of me going there it came and invaded my space for a time and im not sure what to think or make of it....


im still smiling though and love holds strong in the face of fear
 
Simplistic Randamonium said:
well i have never inhibited any mao ever so am anxious about changing inportant body chemistry for the first time...

I see. I still don't understand why you're worried about inhibiting mao in particular. Everything you take changes body chemistry, even food. DMT is serotonin agonist, and stimulates 5-ht receptors. 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) is a monoamine neurotransmitter. Does speaking of things in technical language make them sound more dangerous? Did you read somewhere that rima's are dangerous? Are you on any medication? Taking rima's may be unsafe if you are on anti depressants, or some other medications.

Anyway, rima's are a temporary acting inhibitor of monoamine oxidase-A. As far as I know, it's not dangerous at all for healthy people not on any medication, to inhibit their monoamine oxidase for a few hours. The effects of a rima should be completely gone within 24 hours. Noticable effects usually wear off after 8 hours. A sickeningly high dose should wear off after 16 hours. A low dose, such as 200mg hamine, might be barely felt.


Simplistic Randamonium said:
some one told me to take 200 mg harmine and 100 mg spice 15 min apart...
another told me to take 150 mg harmine and 20 min later take 100 mg harmine + 50 mg spice

I agree with the second choice.
 
im nervouse cause i read too much i guess....


that and the p. harmala video....

i am mostly waiting for someone to embark with as i like to adventure with a good friend...
ya know the kinda relationship that nobody is the super hero cause both are eachothers side kicks...?

eh...

any who, way

im thinkin idea 2 tomarrow night for the super moon!

thanks for the advice and support...
 
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