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Bufo - to vape or smoke?

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So I followed the IPA extraction and evapped my pulls onto a Changa blend (no DMT), which increased in weight by 1g, so perfect 1:1 ratio. In retrospect I should have evapped the IPA and redissolved for a purer product, but tbh I was being a little impatient.

Anyhow, my friend tried to vape some in my GVG the other day and reported no effects what so ever which confused me a bit. Does Bufo need to be burnt in order to be active via the smoked ROA? I want to give it a go, but would like to know the best way to get a decent experience without wasting too much of it.

Thanks,

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Bufo definitely has a higher vaping temperature than DMT, and SWIM never successfully used it in the GVG at a temperature that didn't also ignite the infused herb. She switched to a bong and had no problems. The good news is that the stuff your friend tried probably is still good.

I think I remember Soulfood saying that he was able to vape bufo crystals without a problem.
 
I can vape them but they're harsh as hell, even when pretty damn pure!

Due to this I was never able to get beyond threshold with vaping. I generally infuse a herb and smoke in a joint, then its pretty smooth. I need 5x as much with this method so its pretty damn wasteful.

If you can handle a harsh vapor then go for it.
 
I'll probably just bong it then, any idea what a good starting dose would be? Some where just above thresh hold so I can get my toes wet and get used to it... I may just try a spliff and puff away until I don't know what puffing is any more, I now have 2g of Bufo Changa so I have a fair bit too play with...
 
Purges said:
I'll probably just bong it then, any idea what a good starting dose would be? Some where just above thresh hold so I can get my toes wet and get used to it... I may just try a spliff and puff away until I don't know what puffing is any more...
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Bufo won't do that like DMT can. Generally I smoke until I feel quite nauseous, then smoke a little more, then lie down and wait for the nausea to pass. Takes about 5 minutes and I've never actually vomited.
I highly recommend throwing some caapi in the mix or it can be quite a hollow experience.
 
Because of the high vaporizing temperature, you can pack a whole bowl in the bong, hit as much as you want, and most of the rest will still be there afterwards. SWIM would just pack an entire bowl, and then hit it until the tingling and pressure around her skull got too intense. She never had the nausea that lots of people describe, but the vasoconstriction is crazy.
 
Thanks for the tips guys! Soulfood, there are 100mg Caapi alks in my blend already, I changa-fy everything these days :)

Raga - is there any way of negating the vasoconstriction? That doesn't sound like a barrel of laughs...
 
I remember 69Ron talking about coffee and chocolate both helping, and I think fractal enchantment likes using cacao.

It's not unbearable or anything, and once the experience comes on it becomes background noise. Just important to expect it, so you don't think you've done anything wrong.
 
I would ingest some harmalas before hand...or eat a bunch of cacao first..a bit of coffee etc..something that is vasodialating..and the stimulation is nice becasue bufotenine is very sedating.

I always smoke it with harmalas.

You have to stick the flame right on the snuff and get it to start to burn in my experience..smoke it until you feel discustingly sick and want to puke..your head might tingle and feel like it is in a vice..this is good, it means the bufo will probabily bring visions in a few minutes..smoke maybe one more hit and have your bucket with you. Best to not do this on a full stomach. Also if your face or any other part of the body goes numb dont worry, it is normal..and you might have a tinitus like ringing in the ears..sort of like a dialtone signal.

Lay back in bed, in complete darkness and as soon as you see the grids start to form you know it is starting to really work..Peaks in about maybe 5-7 minutes. The visions are extremely complex and can be realistic if you take enough...mentally you just feel zapped out-it is not comparable to the psychological effects of DMT, ayahuasca or psilocybin.

The nausea is sooo horrible at times I will admit. I barely ever even think about taking bufotenine these days becasue of the body load..I took it so much at one point and my body has an aversion to the stuff..once ever few months or so at most these days.
 
Thanks, I will get some of that 80% dark chovcolate and nom a bar before partaking then :) Its not the snuff I'll be smoking though, I did an IPA extraction, will that make any difference RE; bodyload?
 
ragabr said:
Because of the high vaporizing temperature, you can pack a whole bowl in the bong, hit as much as you want, and most of the rest will still be there afterwards.
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If this is the case then vaping or smoking both seem pretty wasteful. What about smoking it in a bong while using a torch lighter? Better yet, anybody ever try Bufo pharma? :shock:
 
Lemon essential oil does wonders in reducing/ eliminating nausea when predosed before bufo; even when bufo was orally enjoyed with harmalas.

Be careful with this as the experience is extended and sometimes a second dosing of LEO is needed as the first wares off in a few hours.

Purges; has your bufo been freebased? It doesn't work well smoked when using the natural HCl form. It burns hot; vaping out of a lightbulb worked best for my dog.

Blessings.
 
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