yeah similar to that, but a little more "layered" in dimensional sense becasue of the nature of salvia. I have heard reports from people who substitue mini doses of salvia before drinking aya in place of datura to widen the visions..and it works well...you want a good spice to sage ratio though. The salvia is like cappi in a sense when I use it this way, its the cave for the spice to present itself within..and that cave is damn huge..only a little bit of salvia is needed, especially with other psychedelics.