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caesalpinia pulcherrima psychoactive!?

ResearchDreamer

ResearchDreamer

George Terosa research in dream
You can find a lot about caesalpinia pulcherrima but all the information contradicts each other.

The question I ask myself and now also you is whether this plant contains dMT, 5-MEo-DMT and other psychoactive substances or not?

On some pages I found information that the roots, leaves and flowers contain these, on other pages it says TOXIC! on other natural medicine for stomach pain... Can someone help me?

I have one of these plants in the garden and would do a test with a subsequent report here as soon as I have the necessary information.

Thank you in advance for the answers.
 
ResearchDreamer said:
You can find a lot about caesalpinia pulcherrima but all the information contradicts each other.

The question I ask myself and now also you is whether this plant contains dMT, 5-MEo-DMT and other psychoactive substances or not?

On some pages I found information that the roots, leaves and flowers contain these, on other pages it says TOXIC! on other natural medicine for stomach pain... Can someone help me?

I have one of these plants in the garden and would do a test with a subsequent report here as soon as I have the necessary information.

Thank you in advance for the answers.
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Hi, welcome.

Do you have some links to the information sources you've found? How many of them pertain to the credible scientific literature? It's possible for different parts of the same plant to contain different compounds, some of which maybe active, others of which may be toxic. It's also possible that psychoactive plants may be represented as toxic for various reasons.

As previously mentioned, it would be helpful if you could provide some links to help this discussion to progress. Meanwhile, we look forward to hearing of your extraction results. Bear in mind that alkaloid content can vary depending on seasonal conditions as well.

There should be plenty of information here on the forum to help you with the exraction methods - do feel free to hit us up with any related questions that may arise.
 
did an A/B followed by FASA on C. pulcherrima leaves and flowers.

Unfortunately, I didn't take many notes.

But I did yield something. I just tested a little bit of the yield with the Bunk Polices Ehrlich reagent kit. The reagent kit tests for DMT, 5MEO DMT, and other indoles. I did the test side by side to Freebase DMT (left vial). The C. pulcherrima test (right vial) had the exact same color change characteristics as the free base DMT.

2 drops of reagent were added to the C. pulcherrima whereas only one drop was added to the Free Base. This was not by choice, just by accident.


But its still open if and how much % is there
 

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That's a great start, although presumptive reagents are only an indication and not a confirmation.
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here a couple things I found

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Neither of those papers mentions dimethyltryptamine. The "DMT" in the first one refers to "damaged minute tubercles" with respect to insecticidal activity.

Still, it's worth progressing your analysis to TLC (thin layer chromatography) where you'll be able to see whether your extract moves at the same rate as DMT.
 
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