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can small sanpedros be potent?...?...

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starway6

starway6

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I week back i was in a cactus farm looking for active ..
T ..peruvianus

But couldent find anything i wanted to trust as active with the price starting at 40 dollars each...

So i decied that [san pedro] T.panchinoi]..would have some active alcaloids and since it was only 12 dollars for each cacti i bought one..

I bought one small ..T panchnoi.. that was about 14 inches high and two inches thick..

I also pinched the outer skin of cacti before i bought it tasted it and it was extreemly bitter!

The ..T panchinoi.. was 14 inches high and two inches or more thick and a little scarred..

I asumed it was large enough to contain some active alcaloids...
[[[sometimes dynamite comes in smalll packages I thought!]]

I also figured the scarring may have caused some stress on cacti posibly causing it to produce more mescaline..
[hopefull thinking!]]😁

Any way i washed the cacti removed the small short spines and did an extraction for mescaline citrate...

In photo below you can see the results of my.. [mescaline citrate]..extraction from one of my pulls..

Compaire the size of penny to pile of very clean looking salt like crystals scraped up beautyfully!...

[[The smaller pile on one side ..[shows how much citric acid i used].. in acidic water pull..]]

[[The larger pile shows that something else was pulled from cacti alcaloids...]]

The product looks the same clean looking white crystals..

Can this be mescaline?or just other alcaloids that crystalized?its defenantly NOT all citric acid!

I havent tryed my product yet because ..[i guessed].. the cacti was small posibly only a
year and a half old?...or maybe much older but may have suffered stunting by being in
small pot too long/??[Im not shure?]

Since citric acid is suposed to be food safe it should be safe to try?

This stuff looks good any opinions apreciated!
 

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I wasn't going to reply to this because i have no clue about extractions but seeing as no-one has gave you an answer i thought a bit of advice would suffice. From my personal experimentation's with Trichocereus cacti i have found that they need to be atleast 2 - 3 years old to give any noticeable effects other then a euphoric body high, i find that 5+ years old cacti are always better though. So going from that i would assume that what you got there would be mildly active at best, inactive at worse.
 
PC Pedro (aka pachanot) apparently also has very bitter skin and contains a good amount of alkaloids, it just happens that of those alkaloids mescaline is a very small portion if it is present at all. Hopefully you got a good one and that's a nice plate of magic, but don't get your hopes too high.

Got my fingers crossed for ya. :)
 
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PC Pedro (aka pachanot) apparently also has very bitter skin and contains a good amount of alkaloids, it just happens that of those alkaloids mescaline is a very small portion if it is present at all. Hopefully you got a good one and that's a nice plate of magic, but don't get your hopes too high.

Got my fingers crossed for ya. :)
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In photo the small pile is shows the amount of citric acid added...

The larger pile of crystals is what it pulled from the cactus..

Cant some cacti can be three years old with [stunted growth] ..from not being moved to a larger pot or from other stress factors?

What do you think two thirds of this beautyfull looking crystal salt is?
 

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I would suspect a san pedro cactus that is 14 inches tall is mature enough to have a reasonable alkaloid content, it would have to be at least a few years old to achieve that size from seed.

That pile of crystals is most likely alkaloids (and possibly excess citric acid). The question is whether any of those alkaloids are mescaline.

Usually cheap and abundant T. pachanoi is the primary cultivar (PC) variety which contains only small amounts of mescaline, if any. Realistically it's likely you got the PC variety, but it's always possible you may have gotten lucky and gotten a mescaline containing variety. Hopefully it's the latter case :)
 
dreamer042 said:
I would suspect a san pedro cactus that is 14 inches tall is mature enough to have a reasonable alkaloid content, it would have to be at least a few years old to achieve that size from seed.

That pile of crystals is most likely alkaloids (and possibly excess citric acid). The question is whether any of those alkaloids are mescaline.

Thats why im going to order a regents test kit..to test for presence of mescaline...
Im fairly shure that there is nothing that is going to harm me in san pedro alcaloids..[concidering people make tea out of it and even eat the cactus flesh without problems] and the 100 percent citric acid is safe to consume...
I may try it soon!:)
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