Chances of forgetting an ayahausca trip?

[nbome]

If one doses high on ayahausca or pharma what are the chances of forgetting the trip like freebasse? I wanna dose high (I know I'm so stupid) to get a strong trip to look inside myself, but I don't want to forget the majority of it like fb, that would be a waste after being under for like four hours.

What be the chances of doesing to high on aya/pharma and forgetting it, as compared to freebase yo?

 

[SnozzleBerry]

There are a number of components in this post that are immediately alarming. I would suggest that you take some time and slowly research aspects of the ayahuasca experience. Perhaps ask yourself why you are doing this and what you hope to get out of it.

 

[nbome]

I understand intent is important. I've done aya before. All I'm asking is if anyone with high dosage experience
knows how much amnesia is present when it comes to oral at that dosage.

Thanks for the that advice, looking for an actual answer from someone who has experience on this dosage range.

 

[jamie]

at that dose yes, a good protion of it is hard to recall afterwords IME. For me its like certain events stand out and I remember them..but there is a lot that goes on when I am in that deep with oral DMT that I dont have conscious access to.

 

[Global]

Think about how well you can recall the very specific, exact details down to the placement of items in a room in a movie you watched for the first time just yesterday, and you'll realize your memory is not as fantastic as you think it is. We typically remember things the way we expect them to be based on a wide set of expectations. In the case of DMT, especially for newcomers, those sets of expectations tend to be so poor and inaccurate based on very limited experience. In the case of a movie, if you're recalling a bedroom scene for example, you have certain expectations about what you would have seen in that bedroom such as a bed, a night table with a lamp, etc...you have words to label things throughout the room and as such you can recall them more easily; with DMT there are few labels, often no clue of what is really going on, and of the expectations you create, it perpetually demolishes them, so recalling hyperspace can be a bit of a feat. Suffice to say it gets easier with more experience.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

I understand intent is important. I've done aya before. All I'm asking is if anyone with high dosage experience
knows how much amnesia is present when it comes to oral at that dosage.

Thanks for the that advice, looking for an actual answer from someone who has experience on this dosage range.

Yes there is "amnesia"...as someone who has experienced incredibly high dose pharmahuasca, I would suggest you reconsider your desire and your flip attitude, e.g. "I wanna dose high (I know I'm so stupid)."

From an outside perspective, it appears as if you have no idea what you could be getting yourself into. This is what I was attempting to address in my earlier post.

Please be careful. It's all fun and games on this end of the experience, but we've had more than a couple members come through with this sort of attitude, only to have a rude awakening when they embark on their experience.

 

[gibran2]

I wanna dose high (I know I'm so stupid) to get a strong trip to look inside myself...

Why do you think it’s necessary to dose high to look inside yourself?

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

Think about how well you can recall the very specific, exact details down to the placement of items in a room in a movie you watched for the first time just yesterday, and you'll realize your memory is not as fantastic as you think it is. We typically remember things the way we expect them to be based on a wide set of expectations. In the case of DMT, especially for newcomers, those sets of expectations tend to be so poor and inaccurate based on very limited experience. In the case of a movie, if you're recalling a bedroom scene for example, you have certain expectations about what you would have seen in that bedroom such as a bed, a night table with a lamp, etc...you have words to label things throughout the room and as such you can recall them more easily; with DMT there are few labels, often no clue of what is really going on, and of the expectations you create, it perpetually demolishes them, so recalling hyperspace can be a bit of a feat. Suffice to say it gets easier with more experience.

This.


I will not comment on the dose high stuff per se, as who knows what the OP even means by this. This is so very relative.

What I will say... as someone who has done week long aya fasts more than a few times, is that nobody ever remembers even a decent fraction of anything. You can practice and practice until you develop pretty impressive recall, but it only seems that way in comparison. As with dreams, remembering even 5% can seem extraordinary... but only because typical recall is more along the lines of .05% or so.

If you wanna dose high... go ahead. Just do your homework, prepare your space, take precautions, enlist a sitter, you know the drill. Don't do anything stupid. If you are a teenager, or a fairly young adult, I advise you to slow way down. Way way down. There is no rush to get anywhere. What often seems interminably slow and lame to young people is still rather too quick in reality.

It is not until you have had a few dozen people you cared about locked up, in mental hospitals or 6ft under that you come to understand the true magnitude of your new hobby.

So, yeah. What Global said.

You remember nothing of your waking life... a tiny fraction of nothing of your dream life... and a similarly tiny fraction of your psychonautic voyages. The best you can hope to do is increase these percentages. Remember... going from .05% to .1% is already double. Once you start remembering infinite things... this can be truly mind blowing as you are able to recall what seem to be multiples of infinity.