changa it is

[Psuedo]

my friend thought changa is now the best option for him due to his inadequate smoking equip for freebase spice (it hurts)
but on previous experiences he met an all representing multi-buddha in a grey room that seemed/appeared/felt to be where form and formless intercept. lessons learned from this are not even worth trying to go into with petty scribbles on this petty screen.
but changa it is, since he resonates with the notion that caapi seems to be some other conjoining entity, a sister like it is described with ayuhasca sometimes.

so he wants help with designing his mix, but doesnt have the internet so im helping him.
any pointers will be greatttttlyyy apreciated
his inital ingredients and percentages are something like this before the stage where he saturates in dmt.
the total dmt added will be probobaly somewhere around 2g, for a big lasting stash XD but he hasnt finished it off yet so its no good giving exact weights yet.

caapi leaves: 40%
Calea: 15% (he says hes has had wonderfull experiences with this, and read very good reports of successes with changa)
chaliponga: 15%
passionflower: 10%
pau d'arco: 10%
pink lotus 10%

how does this sound?
now hes also talking about adding an amount of extracted 10x harmine to the dmt-acetone solution
but considering there is already MAOI present, what sort of amount would be reasonable? he doesnt want to overkill it... if thats even possible.
saying there was 2g, how much harmine extract?
then the total weight of the two would be divided into the above percentages for the herbs.

any help or recomendations apreciated, he is very much looking foward to this solution for hyperspace exploration.

ps. maybe he should chuck some mint in there for good measure?

 

[۩]

Calea isn't going to have any real effect on the changa. Personally it makes me feverish so I stay away from that plant. Neither is chaliponga, or pau d'arco. Passionflower maybe, but still, very minimal.

Caapi leaves are essential. I would skip everything else and replace it with mullein. It absorbs DMT thoroughly and is good for your respiratory system when smoked. I personally go with caapi/mullein/with trace amounts of lavender and white sage for the taste. Excellent combo.

Add 50-100mg 10x harmine to your changa.



Don't underestimate the power of DMT and the power of suggestion. Stick with a mix that is minimal and effective.

 

[Psuedo]

thanks i trust the opinion of someone thats been here along time, he was only going for the other herbs because people say there was some effects, if its minimal then its not going to matter in hyperspace in relation to interaction with him i guess. they didnt write the visual diagram for spice administration anyway XD
harmine sounds ok to go then white sage will be a replacement, and mullein, i read its good for respiratory i dont know why i didnt add this to the list.
what about cannabis in there, will it do any harm ? XD it worked on the bong once with freebase, lovely, and several joints...

 

[۩]

If you're a regular cannabis user it's perfectly fine to add to changa. A lot of people say it diminishes the clarity of hyperspace. I definitely do not think this is the case for people that use cannabis daily. I have been to hyperspace and back many times, and almost every time, I was stoned. Everyone is different. This combo causes some people to freak out. Just know yourself and what's best for you before proceeding.

Like I said, I use minimal amounts of white sage and lavender. Just a pinch or two improvised into the mix for taste. It adds a wonderful dimension.
I use mostly caapi leaves and mullein, probably equal ratio, making up at least 80% of the mix.

 

[Psuedo]

aha me too sometimes when im stoned (just stoned) legoland happens, exterior world and body become both exterior to this percieving point, seem to be percieved like through a tunnel, with incompresensible 'sides', just beautiful... point of reception was inches behind my head, definatly removed from body. not to mention intense white noise rushing and vibrations that feel ECSTATIC.
so ill tell him to put cannabis in, was making sure it dont die in the acetone or something lol

 

[۩]

No, acetone does not "Kill" cannabis, or terpenoids

I still love to roll up a nice joint and sprinkle changa throughout it. Lovely smoke with effects that layer upon themselves: you get the heavy effects for like 10-20 minutes, then you glow for an hour or two, and then I just feel spectacular and relaxed ALL DAY. It's great.

 

[Ice House]

caapi leaves: 40%
Calea: 15% (he says hes has had wonderfull experiences with this, and read very good reports of successes with changa)
chaliponga: 15%
passionflower: 10%
pau d'arco: 10%
pink lotus 10%

how does this sound?

That sounds like a pain in the butt to prepare and the benefits you will get from this mix will not, IMO, be noticeable.

The best benefits you can expect to get from a changa mix would be 1:1 10x caapi:spice mix.

as ۩ said some lavender or other herb for smoothness/taste.

Keep it simple Psuedo, keep it simple.

 

[jamie]

I dont get people smoking pau d arco..why would you want to smoke it? its like smoking sawdust or woodchips..chaliponga is noticable somewhat if you smoke a big bowl of it..only slightly and so I dont know if you would get effects from the small ammount in changa..I would make an iso extraction from 10g of it and evap it onto the other leaves.

 

[smokerx]

I mixed enhanced caapi leaves , mint, mullein, 100mg caapi harmala and spice and after all was done I added bit of blue lotus and lavender. Very good one

 

[۩]

I dont get people smoking pau d arco..why would you want to smoke it? its like smoking sawdust or woodchips..chaliponga is noticable somewhat if you smoke a big bowl of it..only slightly and so I dont know if you would get effects from the small ammount in changa..I would make an iso extraction from 10g of it and evap it onto the other leaves.

The D'arco dates back to smokeydaze and the dawn of the changa subforum. It's a meme that has refused to die off for some odd reason...

 

[MelCat]

I dont get people smoking pau d arco..why would you want to smoke it? its like smoking sawdust or woodchips..chaliponga is noticable somewhat if you smoke a big bowl of it..only slightly and so I dont know if you would get effects from the small ammount in changa..I would make an iso extraction from 10g of it and evap it onto the other leaves.

If I put and Pau into a blend, or most any herb besides mullein, I'll make a menstrum of it first and evap that onto the blend. It's waaaaay smoother and more enjoyable.