moyshekapoyre
Rising Star
Hi friends,
I searched this forum for "vaping rue" and found a bunch of posts but nothing like what I was expecting to find, which is simply: vaping rue seeds and then vaping DMT. I think one person said they liked it and that was the end of that. Perhaps because most people here are not actually vaping real DMT anymore but just some stuff they extract from MHRB (which I tried with rue seeds and it did not have a lot of synergy, but the alk mix is all random when extracting).
Well, I have to say, this is an extraordinary find. I know that Syrian rue folklore says it keeps away the evil spirits etc and I thought that was just folklore but it is really true. Vape some (200mg) whole rue seeds and you should see, there is a definite lovely calming effect. Then vape some synthetic DMT and it is such a beautiful experience, really nothing like changa or ayahausca at all. More like Metta NMT. (A friend has also tried vaping Metta NMT after vaping whole rue seeds and he says it is even better.)
I repeated the experience a few nights later (because the vaped rue effect actually lasts a day) to verify it was not some weird fluke. First I vaped DMT to establish my baseline. Felt like DMT only. Then vaped the whole rue seeds, and it turned the whole experience into this heart-chakra thing, so lovely and sweet.
Then I crushed up the rue seeds and vaped those, and that was a whole other level... more ayahuasca-ish but zero fear and the entire time a sense of perfection, like this is the jackpot formula, all chakras lined up, and it allowed me to open the door to a dead relative who apparently is now my guardian angel. What an amazingly powerful experience that was-- the energy she had was indescribable. Godly, so pure and so lovely.
So to make CHRUNGA, just dissolve your DMT onto either crushed or whole rue seeds as you prefer. A nice ratio is something like 3:1 rue to DMT but you can play around with it.
Random notes:
1) Today I did some oral "ayahuasca" (3 grams rue seeds eaten then 10 mins later, a gram of Acacia confusa powder). This particular Acacia confusa batch seems to be mostly NMT, it's very nice by itself. But then I vaped some crushed up rue seeds and it really enhanced the experience and also helped to move digestion along. So I advise vaping rue seeds at various times, beginning with right after dosing your aya, and then continuing as the experience unfolds.
2) I also tried extracting spent rue seeds (pulled harmalas out already) with DMSO. That produced an extract that has some potent effects when vaped with DMT, but the effects are mixed -- seems like I am using all kinds of different drugs at once and I can't say it is overall something I would recommend, but it's not terrible. I also tried drinking 3.5mL of this extract which was done 1:1 volume with the rue seeds. It definitely has some effects this way but I was not able to activate DMT orally. No nausea though.
3) I also tried extracting whole rue seeds with acetone and with PEG-400. Both seem to extract the same thing, which is some kind of mood-lifting antipsychotic drug that I wrote about in another post. It can entirely abort an ayahausca trip, at least a low dose aya trip, instantly. Haven't tried it on a high dose but I have vaped high doses of DMT with it and there is some kind of synergy, transforming the experience and making it more gentle.
I figured that if I remove this anti-psychotic drug from the rue seeds, then the remaining rue seeds should be more powerful. In fact, the truth is the opposite. Vaping those seeds that have been extracted with acetone does not yield the amazing benefits with DMT that I get from vaping regular rue seeds. So there is some kind of an entourage effect here.
I searched this forum for "vaping rue" and found a bunch of posts but nothing like what I was expecting to find, which is simply: vaping rue seeds and then vaping DMT. I think one person said they liked it and that was the end of that. Perhaps because most people here are not actually vaping real DMT anymore but just some stuff they extract from MHRB (which I tried with rue seeds and it did not have a lot of synergy, but the alk mix is all random when extracting).
Well, I have to say, this is an extraordinary find. I know that Syrian rue folklore says it keeps away the evil spirits etc and I thought that was just folklore but it is really true. Vape some (200mg) whole rue seeds and you should see, there is a definite lovely calming effect. Then vape some synthetic DMT and it is such a beautiful experience, really nothing like changa or ayahausca at all. More like Metta NMT. (A friend has also tried vaping Metta NMT after vaping whole rue seeds and he says it is even better.)
I repeated the experience a few nights later (because the vaped rue effect actually lasts a day) to verify it was not some weird fluke. First I vaped DMT to establish my baseline. Felt like DMT only. Then vaped the whole rue seeds, and it turned the whole experience into this heart-chakra thing, so lovely and sweet.
Then I crushed up the rue seeds and vaped those, and that was a whole other level... more ayahuasca-ish but zero fear and the entire time a sense of perfection, like this is the jackpot formula, all chakras lined up, and it allowed me to open the door to a dead relative who apparently is now my guardian angel. What an amazingly powerful experience that was-- the energy she had was indescribable. Godly, so pure and so lovely.
So to make CHRUNGA, just dissolve your DMT onto either crushed or whole rue seeds as you prefer. A nice ratio is something like 3:1 rue to DMT but you can play around with it.
Random notes:
1) Today I did some oral "ayahuasca" (3 grams rue seeds eaten then 10 mins later, a gram of Acacia confusa powder). This particular Acacia confusa batch seems to be mostly NMT, it's very nice by itself. But then I vaped some crushed up rue seeds and it really enhanced the experience and also helped to move digestion along. So I advise vaping rue seeds at various times, beginning with right after dosing your aya, and then continuing as the experience unfolds.
2) I also tried extracting spent rue seeds (pulled harmalas out already) with DMSO. That produced an extract that has some potent effects when vaped with DMT, but the effects are mixed -- seems like I am using all kinds of different drugs at once and I can't say it is overall something I would recommend, but it's not terrible. I also tried drinking 3.5mL of this extract which was done 1:1 volume with the rue seeds. It definitely has some effects this way but I was not able to activate DMT orally. No nausea though.
3) I also tried extracting whole rue seeds with acetone and with PEG-400. Both seem to extract the same thing, which is some kind of mood-lifting antipsychotic drug that I wrote about in another post. It can entirely abort an ayahausca trip, at least a low dose aya trip, instantly. Haven't tried it on a high dose but I have vaped high doses of DMT with it and there is some kind of synergy, transforming the experience and making it more gentle.
I figured that if I remove this anti-psychotic drug from the rue seeds, then the remaining rue seeds should be more powerful. In fact, the truth is the opposite. Vaping those seeds that have been extracted with acetone does not yield the amazing benefits with DMT that I get from vaping regular rue seeds. So there is some kind of an entourage effect here.