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cleaning full alkaloid dmt-acetate with mek?
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Two things here.. DMT acetate is not crystal, it is oily... In the evap dish it forms this dryish layer on the outside that looks like dried glue, but once scrapped under this its gooey... Why do you want in acetate ? For keeping as salt I guess more manageable would be fumarate instead, or then keeping as freebase..
Also, I imagine a different way which is freebasing the dmt acetate and pulling with warm naphtha.. this way you only have pure dmt and the rest of the alkaloids are left behind.. Then if you want you can salt this pure dmt, and/or salt the other alkaloids, and keep them separate
Also, I imagine a different way which is freebasing the dmt acetate and pulling with warm naphtha.. this way you only have pure dmt and the rest of the alkaloids are left behind.. Then if you want you can salt this pure dmt, and/or salt the other alkaloids, and keep them separate
Noob said:
if you freebased it with calcium hydroxide how would it precip as dmt acetate crystals? and as mentioned, dmt acetate is not crystal, its a goo
Why do you want acetate?
and why not simply run some warm naphta in this iso-pulled evaporated freebase dmt? then you will pick up only freebase dmt, the rest stays behind
and if you want dmt acetate for some reason I cant get, then just mix the naphtha with an acidic acqueous layer (vinegar solution), and separate and evap the vinegar, which will yield pure dmt acetate
Because SWIM wanted to keep it as nontoxic as possible and SWIM will absolutely not use naphtha since SWIM have tried naphtha before and it's so vile and toxic. Obviously nobody else cares enough and you just think this is dumb so SWIM will give up on dmt since it's just not for him afterall. I figured since impure mescaline acetate could be turned from goo/wax to clean white powder with MEK then so could dmt acetate but I guess I was wrong.
Noob said:
should have said so from the beginning
So MEK considerably non-toxic, then? Didnt know that...
Another thing, if you want the most non toxic, why not go for the limonene extraction then, and finish up with food grade FASW or acetate evap and then freebase with food safe sodium carbonate ? It wont be white crystals but it will be probably a waxy orangeish solid, which you can smoke as is or infuse in herbs...
Last thing, yeah the big difference between mescaline acetate and dmt acetate is that mescaline acetate can crystalize, dmt acetate is a goo, no matter how pure it is..
w0mbat
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Noob, I think my friend is trying to do the same thing as you.
Here's how s/he's planning to do it:
1) Basify MHRB w/ NaOH or calcium hydroxide
2) Extract with non-toxic d-limonene
3) Add fumaric acid saturated water to the limonene layer
4) Evaporate the water layer to get DMT fumarate. This could later be freebased with or without the use of naptha. If you are interested in freebasing w/o naptha, do some searches, I think jorkest has a good tek
As for your question about purifying DMT salts with MEK, I don't know (and judging by how nobody has answered it yet, I'd guess they don't really know either).
However, you could probably get high purity DMT fumarate using FASA (fumaric acid saturated acetone). Just add it to the d-limonene layer (i.e. change step 3 to "Add fumaric acid saturated acetone to the limonene layer" ). That should precipitate the DMT fumarate right in solution - no need to even mess with MEK! (which, afaik, is considerably more hazardous than acetone).
If you are like my friend though, and want to avoid anything using anything chemicals from the hardware store unless absolutely necessary, you could do her limonene & fumaric acid saturated water technique. This tek ought to yield DMT fumarate of about the same purity as the acetone-based tek.
Here's how s/he's planning to do it:
1) Basify MHRB w/ NaOH or calcium hydroxide
2) Extract with non-toxic d-limonene
3) Add fumaric acid saturated water to the limonene layer
4) Evaporate the water layer to get DMT fumarate. This could later be freebased with or without the use of naptha. If you are interested in freebasing w/o naptha, do some searches, I think jorkest has a good tek
As for your question about purifying DMT salts with MEK, I don't know (and judging by how nobody has answered it yet, I'd guess they don't really know either).
However, you could probably get high purity DMT fumarate using FASA (fumaric acid saturated acetone). Just add it to the d-limonene layer (i.e. change step 3 to "Add fumaric acid saturated acetone to the limonene layer" ). That should precipitate the DMT fumarate right in solution - no need to even mess with MEK! (which, afaik, is considerably more hazardous than acetone).
If you are like my friend though, and want to avoid anything using anything chemicals from the hardware store unless absolutely necessary, you could do her limonene & fumaric acid saturated water technique. This tek ought to yield DMT fumarate of about the same purity as the acetone-based tek.