i mentioned to skwrlgurl that I really wanted to reply to the salvia board here, cause the experience is so odd, and i've been reading experiences that remind me of my experiences.
anyways, wanted to reply, but couldn't. so she suggested i just do it here, so here goes. hope no one minds.
comment on jacetea's salvia experience.
this is interesting for me, because i will assume jacetea has had experience with DMT, but no experience with Salvia. Whereas i have no DMT experience, and a long 3-month run with Salvia. ASFAIK, salvia is the most potent entheogen I've ever taken, and on the other hand - i've always heard DMT is the most potent known. I don't doubt it, just never tried it.
jacetea says "the room...looked like a classroom for some reason." I've had a similiar feeling, sitting on the couch in my apartment: The kitchen counter looked like a 2-story apartment building, and my computer across the room looked like a bowling alley. "Looked like" isn't exactly correct, it was more like "felt like". at other times, my carpet looked like a forest landscape, complete with trees, hills, paths, clearings. the landscape extended for miles and miles, because i was looking down at it from 1000 feet up in the air (was actually just sitting on my couch).
additionally, the first words out of my mouth when i first smoke salvia were: I can't believe this is legal.
and this was soon followed up by "boing boing boing" as I walked down the street with a 1000 foot view of the sidewalk below me.
I've often felt that I woke up from a lifelong dream, and entered reality. I could actually look back on my "life" and say "damn, i'm glad that's over now that i"m here". Anyways, people I knew "then" were still with me "there". But they were there the whole time, and were glad to see that i "made it back."
"there" was a place where all my day to day problems ceased to exist. It was like a brand new start over "there". it was a very, very good feeling to know that.
Once I found myself counting from 1 to about 2000 for no reason. But i couldn't stop, and it seemed like i did it fairly quickly. Another time, I was repeating the days of the week over and over again.
Sapleperson: I like that, cause I can relate to the "zipper". I often would say I was "folding" into existence. It literally seemed like 3-dimensions were coalescing towards me, and to the right of me, and I was being folded into it, to the right. And i would slowly start turning right.
writing things down during the experience is a good exercise. And can be trying. I can assume that jacetea wrote things down, almost out of necessity. Sometimes you don't want to forget this new word that has meaning during the experience. And when its all over, if you didn't write it down, you'll probably be trying to remember what the word was. And if you did write it down, you'll probably be trying to remember what the word meant. its very very difficult to carry over what was "learned" from a salvia experience, i've found. for me, its most like "what the hell was i thinking about....". I knew what i was thiking during the experience has a lot of meaning. But afterwards I would forget that meaning.
mostly its: there is more to reality than what i think. which we all know, but its being able to perceive, or draw from it, almost at will. and if not, then through the help of entheogens. however, the trick with entheogens is to utilize what was learned. for instance - feeling connected is common for shrooms, and its a lovely feeling. so why not apply that feeling 24 hours a day. with shrooms, manifesting that feeling completly is so effortless that we never seek it, it just happens. so, its easy enough to do, just do it.
anyways, wanted to reply, but couldn't. so she suggested i just do it here, so here goes. hope no one minds.
comment on jacetea's salvia experience.
this is interesting for me, because i will assume jacetea has had experience with DMT, but no experience with Salvia. Whereas i have no DMT experience, and a long 3-month run with Salvia. ASFAIK, salvia is the most potent entheogen I've ever taken, and on the other hand - i've always heard DMT is the most potent known. I don't doubt it, just never tried it.
jacetea says "the room...looked like a classroom for some reason." I've had a similiar feeling, sitting on the couch in my apartment: The kitchen counter looked like a 2-story apartment building, and my computer across the room looked like a bowling alley. "Looked like" isn't exactly correct, it was more like "felt like". at other times, my carpet looked like a forest landscape, complete with trees, hills, paths, clearings. the landscape extended for miles and miles, because i was looking down at it from 1000 feet up in the air (was actually just sitting on my couch).
additionally, the first words out of my mouth when i first smoke salvia were: I can't believe this is legal.
and this was soon followed up by "boing boing boing" as I walked down the street with a 1000 foot view of the sidewalk below me.
I've often felt that I woke up from a lifelong dream, and entered reality. I could actually look back on my "life" and say "damn, i'm glad that's over now that i"m here". Anyways, people I knew "then" were still with me "there". But they were there the whole time, and were glad to see that i "made it back."
"there" was a place where all my day to day problems ceased to exist. It was like a brand new start over "there". it was a very, very good feeling to know that.
Once I found myself counting from 1 to about 2000 for no reason. But i couldn't stop, and it seemed like i did it fairly quickly. Another time, I was repeating the days of the week over and over again.
Sapleperson: I like that, cause I can relate to the "zipper". I often would say I was "folding" into existence. It literally seemed like 3-dimensions were coalescing towards me, and to the right of me, and I was being folded into it, to the right. And i would slowly start turning right.
writing things down during the experience is a good exercise. And can be trying. I can assume that jacetea wrote things down, almost out of necessity. Sometimes you don't want to forget this new word that has meaning during the experience. And when its all over, if you didn't write it down, you'll probably be trying to remember what the word was. And if you did write it down, you'll probably be trying to remember what the word meant. its very very difficult to carry over what was "learned" from a salvia experience, i've found. for me, its most like "what the hell was i thinking about....". I knew what i was thiking during the experience has a lot of meaning. But afterwards I would forget that meaning.
mostly its: there is more to reality than what i think. which we all know, but its being able to perceive, or draw from it, almost at will. and if not, then through the help of entheogens. however, the trick with entheogens is to utilize what was learned. for instance - feeling connected is common for shrooms, and its a lovely feeling. so why not apply that feeling 24 hours a day. with shrooms, manifesting that feeling completly is so effortless that we never seek it, it just happens. so, its easy enough to do, just do it.
