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shanebd18

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Hi, my name is Jason.
I took DMT once three years ago. I had tripped on mushrooms a few times and I thought I knew what tripping was, it was like i was invincible, like i was a child. I didn't know anlything about it but I jumped right in. I was with a couple old college guys and took a hit off a bong with a bowl and three veteran doses on top and somehow managed to smoke it all. Then everything went to complete shit. I really couldn't begin to describe, i'm sure if your reading this then you know what I mean there. My brain exploded, I could see parts of my skull floating around and fucked up two-dimentional, cyclops, octopuses tore appart my brain. I saw my mother, though she wasn't there, screaming. I knew I was dead. during several "waves of wasps" i heard a womanlike voice cooing over me,cradling my empty gaping skull, and later a mans voice which led me like an extended hand (which in desperate frenzy i took) and simply said "look" "watch" and "let me show you" at different hallways of kallidascope infinity.

Since then I've been in a pretty bad way. For the first couple weeks I had nightmares. Id wake up almost screaming and crawl into the corner under my bed still able to feel slippery brains dripping down my face and cry myself to sleep. Everytime I heard a siren I would have a kind of fit. I was completely broken. And I'm just gonna say I'm not someone who goes down without a fight, but there was no fight. Just complete desctruction of God within me.

Two months later when I was drinkin a 40 at midnight or so in a park in the hills with my best friend (none of my friends understood, nor could I relay in full what i was feeling) I saw the sky tear open and it was a giant eye in the sky, with the iris made up of sawblades and skinless lions,the whites a black hole to oblivion, and the pupil a furnace so white hot it burned you where you stood. I new that it was hell coming to claim my soul, and needless to say I freaked out.

Somehow it hasnt stopped, like a scar in my brain that i can't brush over. the next 4 or so times I took shrooms (I took 6 grams a week later, bad idea) I reverted to bad flashback trip 2.0. complete intro-pain sequence. Everytime i closed my eyes I saw tearing meat with teeth and eyes stuck happhazardly throughout. and everytime i opened them i saw that plasma screen burn made up of a thousand screaming faces.

I went to school, having just gotten out of high school. I began training as a merchant marine. I drank myself to death during that time. I blacked out every night for weeks at a time. My grades were pretty good, but I felt i was in a cage. I began to think of my soul as a ghost in the shell that was my walking corpse. I did some fucked up shit during that time. two years in which i earned a reputation as a mad guitar playing drunk. I jumped off of roofs, got in trouble with police, and embarrases myself most of the time as well as getting the shit kicked out of me on multiple occaisions. I sailed the south pacific, and made enemies of most of the management. I broke into the Australian botanical gardens and blacked out in them,and smuggled booze on board the ship (a expulsion worthy offence) and i painted the class murrel, which is the only real accomplishment I think I really did. Then I was kicked out during my second year.


Now, I live in a rathole and drink myself to sleep any night i can afford it. I used to be The People Person, I used to have my life and its place in the world figured out. Now...I sometimes feel i blame the DMT for my problems, like a skape-goat, but i..i really couldn't say. It all comes back to it. I am black inside, where before i was a soulful wanderer, i am sick, but i cant bring myself to get proffesional help because it goes against everything I ever believed about my personal strength and what would they know anyway. I don't know what to do anymore. maybe DMT just brought to light the evils in me. but i don't think im an evil person, im actually a pretty personable person when im not drunk as all get out. I am just hurt inside and it wont go away and i dont know what to do anymore, has anyone had an experience like this?
-when i sleep, all i hear is screams, and id have killed myself long ago if it werent for the terror of finding what i fear at the end in eternity.
 
dude go to a doctor...they may be able to give you something that stops these events...seriously

sometimes things like this happen when somebody that doesnt understand takes a HUGE dose..its also possible there was 5-meo-dmt in there...

there have been reports of these sorts of effects from a 5-meo-dmt overdose...the only way to really get them to stop was to go to a doctor and get some anti-psychotic drugs...it really might help dude...

but you are in a good place here...we like to help people
 
Dude, so very sorry to hear about your troubles. PLEASE, get some proffesional help as dealing with it on your own is self destruction. There is no shame in seeking help, you are doin it by posting here except we are not trained preffesionals and can't perscribe what may help you resolve these issues. I went to a therapist and doctor for a painkiller addiction (seven years of spiraling hell) and if it wasn't for the medical help I would certainly be dead now. I also went to couples counceling and for a dude, that's a tough one to swallow, but once I got passed the stigma... it was VERY beneficial and am a much better man for it. I can honestly attribute my LIFE and happiness for reaching out and getting help. You and those who love you deserve the opportunity. Get help, the Nexus is a reat sounding board, but by no means a substitue.

Get help, no shame brother. Sucks to live like that and it can be better!

Keep us posted and again, sorry to hear and truly wish you all the best!

*O*
 
Agree with those above. I'm no pro, but get yourself some help brother. You needn't drag yourself through life in this kind of agony. All the best to you. I hope you find the peace you deserve. :)
 
Pup Tentacle said:
Agree with those above. I'm no pro, but get yourself some help brother. You needn't drag yourself through life in this kind of agony. All the best to you. I hope you find the peace you deserve. :)

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shanebd18 said:
...i am sick, but i cant bring myself to get proffesional help because it goes against everything I ever believed about my personal strength and what would they know anyway.

Go straight to AA, get a sponsor and work the AA 12 steps program. It's a secret formula to clean darkness and bring light to your being. Seriously, there's a reason why AA is by far the biggest "organisation" known to man :) You can find an AA meeting in almost any town in the world. And most cities have many meetings every day full of people trying to better themselves and be good honest people capable of giving and helping others.
Check the program. It works if you work it.

shanebd18 said:
but i don't think im an evil person, im actually a pretty personable person when im not drunk as all get out.

No I don't think you're evil, just sick. And I know you can become healthy again :)

Good luck. I really hope you'll find your way out of this asap.
 
Hello shanebd18,

Welcome to the Nexus. That was quite an introduction. As you can tell, folks here are very concerned for you.

I just want to also say that I am very sorry you had such a rough ride with DMT. I think of DMT (& other psychedelics, including 5-meo-DMT) as a catalyst. Speaking for myself, whenever I felt broken or vivesected or molested by DMT, after doing some difficult integration work, I came to realize that the entheogens had only served to illuminate my stuff, often in a highly symbolic manner.

You sound to me like you desperately need some integration time. Here's a very well written link from the Health & Safety section on Integration DMT-Nexus Wiki:Health and Safety - DMT-Nexus Wiki .

Integration means working on the material that came up. For me that means abstaining from additional tripping. No matter how long that takes. Also abstaining from heavy drinking, stoning, whatever. Doing lots of meditation. Trying to reach for health by eating well balanced meals, getting enough sleep and talking to anyone I could.

This brings me to the topic of seeking counseling. You sure sound like you are suffering and I suspect going to counseling might help. So many think of counseling as an indication of weakness or craziness which blows my mind. To me it's an opportunity and a priveledge. If you can access it when you need it and you don't resist but actively work, progress can be made. It is not easy. It is difficult - it involves working with and facing stuff, not running away by getting drunk.

You may also want to look into things like AA and/or medication just to get you over the hump. Again, not an indication of weakness, and it wouldn't necessarily be forever. It's all about how you choose to use the resources you can access.

I do hope you will be kind to yourself, consider taking a break from all drugs and seeking some outside help. It's going to get better, but you have to do some work. I do sincerely hope you will choose to do so. Again, I welcome you to the Nexus.
 
Im sorry to come here and just spew drama, I reached the end of my rope in these past couple months. Thanks for all the support, advice,and understanding, I really appreciate it, (seriously). This is a great place.

I guess I thought time would heal all wounds and I just closed myself completely off (like an idiot). yall give me hope, somehow i've managed to avoid that before now. I guess its time to open my eye and do my best to change things instead of running. (sleeping might be a good start, I hear its free when you don't need booze to do it haha)

Happy travels, and wide roads, and don't fear the reaper.
 
Pandora said:
This brings me to the topic of seeking counseling. You sure sound like you are suffering and I suspect going to counseling might help. So many think of counseling as an indication of weakness or craziness which blows my mind. To me it's an opportunity and a priveledge. If you can access it when you need it and you don't resist but actively work, progress can be made. It is not easy. It is difficult - it involves working with and facing stuff, not running away by getting drunk.

I totally agree. If you don't have insurance most local gov'ts provide some form of counseling and even medication if that's the road you'd like to go down.

Best - J
 
AfroHorror said:
Grrr...
Set your mind and will your body.
peace

Not as easily said then done... not sure if you have ever been in a place where something had a hold over you like that. The whole problem IS your mind isn't in a place where it can set itself right. It's like asking a fish not to drink water. Yes, discipline and will power come into play, but it's hard enough to put it into action even after a full detox. Without support, chances are very very slim that it can be done by sheer will, not saying it doesn't happen, but in the game of odds, I wouldn't bet on it.

Jason, do reach out and make a plan. Sleep, good diet and talking things out is a great start. The booze will only sink you deeper, and you know that. Like I said, I went down a very destructive path with opiates and if it wasn't for the love of my wife to stick by me and me getting professional help and it was not easy, it SUCKED BALLS! But, so did living a completely empty and hopeless life. I now am almost four years clean from that crap...(I now just drink socially, smoke a bowl here and there and a blast off once in a while... BALANCE) I squared myself away WITH help and now have a woderful daughter and fulfilling life.. so can you, just not overnight.

Be well my friend!
 
He should have found help as soon as it became a problem and started crying in a corner.
i have a cousin in rehab, an alcoholic aunt, and other family members who have had problems.
The ones who need and accept help get it, and people who want help are helped just as much.
I have been depressed for quite a while and self-pity will bury you.
If you can't help yourself you need help. That's the truth
 
AfroHorror said:
He should have found help as soon as it became a problem and started crying in a corner.
i have a cousin in rehab, an alcoholic aunt, and other family members who have had problems.
The ones who need and accept help get it, and people who want help are helped just as much.
I have been depressed for quite a while and self-pity will bury you.
If you can't help yourself you need help. That's the truth

In a perfect world of course he should have found help long ago, but unless Jason can build a time machine, he is where he is now. Obviously if you don't want help when you need it you won't get it. Period. Asking for it when you do is probably the hardest part of it. Anyway, it's not black and white and no body chooses to end up in a bad spot on purpose.
 
To be totaly honest, i've been to AA. and ive stopped drinking for months at a time, past the sweats and shakes. but it hasn't helped my personal issues. it seems to me that it all started with the DMT trip, and I could never get myself to talk about it to an AA group. Its embaressing, someone should be able to deal wiht a bad trip, it shouldn't define how they live, but it did. How could I explain it.
So I came to this site ( i barely use the internet) to see what people have found to deal with bad trips. Hell, maybe I didn't even need to post anything. I guess my intro post foccused mainly on my drinking, and sad little cirrcumstances therin, and honestly I will never kill myself, thats a silly decision, and overdramatic on my part. But I just wanted to relay the power this one trip has been having over my life. change isn't easy either. but i was serious when i said em gonna try and open my eyes. Im going to find a councelor (it does seem pretty dumb I havnt seen one before now) . Also I've considered many times trying DMT again to tryand face my fear, but prepared, and in a MUCh smaller dose. I was never sure whether that was completely stupid or not on my part, also i was afraid. but I think its true that I could never do as much harm to myself there as what Ive been doing every day.
once agian, I appreciate all your insight, and help. and i still got the book, so AA might not be a bad idea,haha, thats ajoke, seriously though im looking up groups in my area, probably will be what the councelor says anyway ya know ;)
all the best.
 
It sounds like your usage of DMT triggered a latent (hidden) psychological disorder, probably schizophrenia. Does anyone in your family have a history of schizophrenia? Parents, grandparents, cousins, etc? Be honest, we are here to help you.

The fact that you are hallucinating weeks after trying the drugs is very worrisome. You should definitely get help from a psychiatrist, so that they can give you some medicine. It may be that simple.

You say that getting help will make you weak? I don't agree with that at all. If your leg was infected and the doctors thought they might have to amputate it, would you reject anti-biotics and try to heal the infection yourself? That would be insane.

Sometimes medicine will give you back the normality you seek.
 
AfroHorror said:
He is here now to change things.
So he can now. Otherwise he tells his story for pity.

Maybe he tells the story because telling the story helps. Also, 'pity' is quite a loaded word -how about empathy?
 
Glad to hear youur taking steps to sort things out man, stick with it and be honest with those you let in to help you AA or not. The schizophrenia thing popped in my head too, being that I've never heard of people hallucinating days or weeks later without any other drugs to induce them (outide of flashbacks, which are pretty rare). But without knowing enouh about you and your family history it's simply another possibility nothing more. You'll get it sorted out if you get some pros involved and stay with it.

Happy New Year bro, make it a good one.
 
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