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Darkbb

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I am on a pretty tight budget right now and was wondering how much it would cost me to make about 2 grams of this stuff? including all the chemicals. Sorry for posting a question like this i'm just trying to get more motivated to actually doing the extraction. I know i can but i'm broke and need to be more interested in it.

Also when people say that bufo has less of a mind fuck than strait dmt are they relating to the confusion and clearity of what you are seeing.

I would love to experience a dmt or bufo trip that I can more fully understand and where things arn't just flying by me so fast I can't see wtf is happening. Maybe Pharmahuasca is the way to go.
 
You don't need to make 2g. Make already 500 mg (~50 g of seeds) and this will be enough for you to see if you find it interresting or not. To date SWIM did not achieved to reach any psychedelic state with bufo (hurt lungs too much), but the low dose effects are pleasants on the body.
 
try making a Changa mix with bufo...with some peppermint, passionflower, caapi, and mullein...and maybe a bit of salvia...
 
I REALLY want to get into bufo as well...I tried vilca a few times and got a taste of the visuals, but wayy too much nausea..but I did not bake the seeds enough to destroy any toxins..I got some more cebil seeds and prepared a gram of snuff prperly, but have yet to try it(waiting for a good day with empty stomach)in case the nausea is there still..

I have some more seeds on the way though and hope to try some pure bufo..is it really more like psilocybin than DMT??..because that would be ideal:d
 
well from the tests SWIM has done with his d-limonene extraction..when ~10mg is smoked over the course of 5-10minutes..the effects are very similar to psilo..except without the crazy brain effects...its also sedating for SWIM in a sense...he kinda goes into a trance...and just sits there for hours..until he realizes what hes been doing for the passed few hours and starts to move again...

the visual aspect from the d-limo tek bufo is interesting but nothing like hes heard PURE bufo to be...but when mixed in with a nice changa mix...with a little dmt...makes it much easier to smoke..and way more enjoyable..

SWIM sort of enjoys the vasoconstricting effects of bufotenine now
 
Darkbb said:
I am on a pretty tight budget right now and was wondering how much it would cost me to make about 2 grams of this stuff? including all the chemicals. Sorry for posting a question like this i'm just trying to get more motivated to actually doing the extraction. I know i can but i'm broke and need to be more interested in it.

Also when people say that bufo has less of a mind fuck than strait dmt are they relating to the confusion and clearity of what you are seeing.

I would love to experience a dmt or bufo trip that I can more fully understand and where things arn't just flying by me so fast I can't see wtf is happening. Maybe Pharmahuasca is the way to go.
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This may not be the extraction you want do if your trying to keep your costs down, it's very time & $$ consuming!!

Like Garulfo said, I've yet to get crystalline Bufo either.
I've gotten some impure Bufo extract & it does produce a very nice body buzz, but I've yet to reach anything more than a "bending" of my peripheral vision, as far as the DMT-like effects go.
And I've spent well over $200-$300 purchasing seeds & solvents!!
This tek uses a lot of Acetone & that shit gets fucking expensive when you are using this much of it & evaporating it off every time!! The quality of the seeds also varies a whole lot from batch to batch & vendor to vendor, so you do not want to buy cheap seeds, to try & save some money.

Remember, this tek is still fairly experimental & there is really no guaranty that you going to get a pure enough extract, for easy psychedelic effects.

Still, the effects are nice, but this is not a money-saving tek...not yet anyway!!


WS
 
..really I am waiting for the right time to try a nice rail!!..but I am a complete newb when it comes to sniffing anything other than 1 vilca seed years ago..think im gunna make a cool snuff tube and tray and experiement lots with this method as well as smoking, as I have a good supply comming now for the summer..

..sedation is also welcomed..does it add sedation to other psychedelics, like psilocybin and mescaline?..if so it should be good for jittery/anxious bodies..
 
ehh...SWIM wouldnt combine it with mescaline at high doses..they dont seem to mesh well..but bufo might go really well with mushrooms...SWIM hasnt actually tried that yet...hmmm...not sure if it would calm jitters..butit may
 
Ilpt on TIGHT BUDGET would get some rue seeds and jurema bark and perform extractions


You can choose your own vendor but I just go with maya for now....

...they ethno are decent quality and surely would yield decently

...trouble with maya is minumum order rule :cry: .

Parrot need to order at least £35 worth of stuff (~ 50 bucks) :shock:

soo budget one:

harmala seeds (maya 25g for £1.60 , 2kg for £44 :shock: very cheap )

jurema (maya 25g £5.60) that`s £ 7.20 plus £ 6.8 shipping .....

makes £14 spent in ethnoshop...

now lye from wilkinson £ 2,50 (500g) distiled water £ 1,5 (3l),
swan lighter fuel £1,8(200ml; it`s enough for three 50ml pulls and 50ml for freeze prec.)
£1,80 for tesco`s rock salt(500g) and soda bicarbonate powder(200g)
£ 0,8o for bottle of vinegar(0,5l) from polish/turkish offlicence

makes £ 8,4 for kemikals....

Budget of £ 22,4 make swim "very nice moments"

budget two:

...or just make coffe brew with gram of hbwr seeds for £ 3 plus about £ 7 shipping

Budget of £ 10 make swim "good time"
 
Ok, this talk about bufotenine being harsh on the lungs makes NO sense, or so SWIM apparently says.

Is SWIM just blessed with leather lungs? He coughed his lungs each time he smoked weed, so he suspects not. But Bufotenine from several different extractions has goes down just fine for him. Harsher than DMT, but definitely smoother than weed.

The effects reported on this forum by people other than 69ron also confuses him. Both times he smoked the extract from his water boil -> limonene boil tek, he spent ~two hours glued to his chair astounded by the things he saw, barely able to tell whether his eyes were open or closed. His other extracts weren't nearly as good, but they were DEFINITELY visual. What gives? Is it just attributable to the difference between individuals?
 
perhaps thats it..because SWIM hasnt been able to get visuals like that from any bufo hes tried..hes gotten visuals..but nothing like whats been reported...how did you vaporize it? perhaps its really coming down to smoking technique..

also what is this water boil that you speak of...perhaps there is some strange reaction that just isnt happening for most people...SWIM is super interested in finding out..because what gives anyway!
 
The water boil is the first part of the tek I posted on behalf of SWIM on page 20 of "Bufotenine Extraction".

SWIM vaporizes in a test tube, though not quite as fancy as 69ron's. It's just a largish test tube, into which he places the vapable, and then he sticks down a glass pipette into it to act as a inhalation tube and uses a bit of clay to wedge the test tube and pipette together. He uses the same set up (though different test tubes, obviously) for DMT also, and gets good results.
 
A note on bufo harsh on lungs : SWIM is no regular smoker, nor MJ or tobacco. Usually SWIM has no problem to keep bufo smoke in lungs if done slowly.
But SWIM noticed uncomfortable feelings on his lungs (bronchia to be more accurate) several hours after smoking. Similar to what happens with DMT but much harsher, especially taking in account the small amounts of bufo used.
SWIM will probably try changa-bufo but he hardly see how this could improve things to add even more ashes and burned things.

Spastic, does the extract SWIY vaporize is 'clean' (yellow or clear) ?
 
by adding some peppermint to the mix..and some passionflower(for mild maoi action)

the peppermint really adds a nice coolness to the smoke...and also with the bufo in the changa mix at the right ration..you can make it a weak changa mix so that you have to smoke a whole joint of the stuff for a full dose...this also keeps you from taking the whole dose in at once..and spreads it out nicely
 
WOW thanx for all the replies. didnt expect that many. I have to go eat but i'll read them later. I finally got a job and MAYBE MAYBE MAYBE MAYBE a million times more i found a legit 'cid hookup. I'm sure a few of you have read my other posts about me saying that i found some LSD before but each of those times it was bunk. if it is again this time then i'll be pursuing a bufo extraction!!!! peace
 
fractal enchantment said:
I REALLY want to get into bufo as well...I tried vilca a few times and got a taste of the visuals, but wayy too much nausea..but I did not bake the seeds enough to destroy any toxins..I got some more cebil seeds and prepared a gram of snuff prperly, but have yet to try it(waiting for a good day with empty stomach)in case the nausea is there still..

I have some more seeds on the way though and hope to try some pure bufo..is it really more like psilocybin than DMT??..because that would be ideal:d
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SWeet. Yopo was my very first psychedelic ever. (except a small dose of weak shrooms (Shitty)) I expected hallucinations but did not expect to have my face in the toilet with my puke F**kin twirling and shape shifting lol. You could say I didn't know what I was getting myself into.
 
Jorkest said:
well from the tests SWIM has done with his d-limonene extraction..when ~10mg is smoked over the course of 5-10minutes..the effects are very similar to psilo..except without the crazy brain effects...its also sedating for SWIM in a sense...he kinda goes into a trance...and just sits there for hours..until he realizes what hes been doing for the passed few hours and starts to move again...

the visual aspect from the d-limo tek bufo is interesting but nothing like hes heard PURE bufo to be...but when mixed in with a nice changa mix...with a little dmt...makes it much easier to smoke..and way more enjoyable..

SWIM sort of enjoys the vasoconstricting effects of bufotenine now
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How long does the bufo last. Chances are I would be able to handle a lung full of bufo smoke. I never mind what smoke tastes like if there are effects to be achieved cause then the whole point is to get the psychedelic effects.
 
its not about the taste...in a way..a large lung full of bufo will choke you..unless you vaporize it JUST right..
 
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