cup coil instead of e-mesh?

[Ernestine]

I was thinking about that.
I cant make the juice too thick because I will measure it with a thin insuline syringe, for the sake of precision.
I though about dissolving in isopropanol but really it will take 30 mins if not an hour or two to evaporate, very unconvenient. and the main solution may slowly evaporate and screw the dosage.


what do you mean by "efficiently" ? It doesn't matter to me if it takes a few seconds more to heat, I'm not that impatient. but you could just find mini metalic balls. I've heard of terp pearls being used to

It's not impatience that's the issue as such but the length of time from firing to vapourising does cause problems. As you fire the device you will at some point have boiling liquid in your cup which will run around, much like it did on the mesh, and bubble and spit rather than vapourising cleanly in one go. The cups also tend not to heat uniformly. Therefore, some wool or balls might help to get it all up to vaporising temp more quickly, hopefully prevent or reduce bubbling and spitting.

With respect to alcohol dosing. You could create small mesh pieces in advance then place them on your heating mesh when you're ready. It would take a bit of planning but could be a quick and easy way to dose.

 

[Transform]

There's the option of making dosing buttons out of pipe screen mesh, which maybe you're referring to. Now, I wonder how we can find that thread!

Some reults came up with this search, e.g.

Applying waxy/sticky dmt to chamber on E mesh convection vape...

This is a continuation of the ...... True E mesh convection !. and ceramic health stone] thread......dealing with applying a dose of waxy or oily DMT onto chamber screen making it more simple to do... Ive found that using... dab spoon...was kind of a problem when trying to apply...

forum.dmt-nexus.me

how come it works so well in PG, which boils at 180C then?

The PG itself doesn't actually boil, it's the water dissolved in it - PG is unavoidably hygroscopic - that flash boils and rapid expansion of the resulting steam atomises the PG into the fog of tiny droplets to which we are accustomed. "Vaping" is therefore something of a misnomer, and the aforementioned process is the reason why the vaping units are called atomisers. (They're basically miniature theatrical fog machines.)

 

[fink]

what made it bad?

Inconsistent heat. Vapor condenses on the colder areas of glass almost immediately. Very hard to vaporize a full dose quickly enough. Very easy to burn pure spice into a black goo.

Essentially, not sufficient for rapid full dose hit, IME.

 

[Transform]

actually I wonder if these cup vaporizators can be hot enough to vaporize 5meo


Boiling point: 370.5 °C

@Brennendes Wasser did a great job of covering questions like this one. Read all of his posts!

Things can vaporise at temperatures well below their boiling point. If this weren't the case, puddles would never dry up.

All substances have a vapour pressure at any given temperature. The boiling point of a substance is the temperature at which this vapour pressure equals that of atmospheric pressure. At lower temperatures, a substance will evaporate until there is a proportion of it in the surrounding atmosphere with a partial vapour pressure equal to the vapour pressure of the condensed substance.

In cases where there is a constant flow of fresh air entering without containing any of the substance in question, that substance will keep evaporating until its partial vapour pressure is met, or until it has all evaporated if the airflow continues indefinitely. Think of how puddles evaporate more quickly on a windy day.

Solids can have a vapour pressure too, which can lead to the phenomenon of sublimation. Maybe the best-known example of this is 'dry ice'. There's little need to go into further detail here, but it could prove relevant with some substances of higher melting point or, indeed, higher vapour pressure.

(The atomisation phenomenon is governed by different dynamics than all of this, for the most part.)