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d-limonene for transdermal delivery?

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5-meo-dmt? bufotenine? dmt?
I don't know about dmt. It is not absorbed sublingually, so do not know how it would work with d-limonene. Don't really know much about this, so was hoping someone with more knowledge about these things could chime in.
 
Dagger said:
I don't know about dmt. It is not absorbed sublingually,

i cant say thats false for sure but based on my experience i beg to differ
the furmate form held under the tongue seems quite effective to me

in those recurring dreams iv been having.... that is
 
69ron said:
At what dose?


let me take a few steps back i was not implying that it was active on its own
i have only tried it with harmala in me and usually after i have already taken an oral dose (.6-1mg/kg) however i have defiantly noticed its active and able to "boost" me noticeably quicker then if i were to swallow it...

with that i mind i usually dont measure it just a nice scoop on the end of my knife ~20-30 mgs and dump it under my tongue and leave it there till the taste is gone before i swallow

now you got me doubting it for some reason... next time i dose i will take my initial dose sublingual and report back (tomorrow night more then likely :p )
 
heheh... well kinda funny but... dried toad venom has been used as Chinese erection stone. where it rubbed on the penis... to make one erect.. JLF used to sell it as toad venom.. swim bought some once and smoked it... feels much like cebil actually...
but i figure that the stones effects have little to do with bufotenine or 5meodmt...
 
psychosisdoses said:
69ron said:
At what dose?


let me take a few steps back i was not implying that it was active on its own
i have only tried it with harmala in me and usually after i have already taken an oral dose (.6-1mg/kg) however i have defiantly noticed its active and able to "boost" me noticeably quicker then if i were to swallow it...

with that i mind i usually dont measure it just a nice scoop on the end of my knife ~20-30 mgs and dump it under my tongue and leave it there till the taste is gone before i swallow

now you got me doubting it for some reason... next time i dose i will take my initial dose sublingual and report back (tomorrow night more then likely :p )

Well, psychosisdoses, SWIM tried up to 20 mg of DMT sublingually dissolved in 1 ml of DMSO, and it seemed to do something. He felt a little tingly in the face and hands, a little euphoric, and a melatonin like effect. I think the dose was just not big enough. SWIM was expecting more. 20 mg is enough for SWIM to have visions if the DMT is taken orally with an MAOI or simply smoked. So he saw this as a waste of DMT and never tried taking any more. It's likely the proper sublingual dose is 100 mg or more even with DMSO.
 
next trip i plan on taking ~120mg harmala with a normal dose for me but instead of swallowing it i will just hold it... see if comeups quicker or whatever im thinking 50-70mg.... theres little doubt in my mind that it works at least it makes sense to me that it oughta work... in any case i will try it soon enough
 
LLB..have you had much experience with toad venom? SWIM has smoked it many times..and does notice slight similarities between it and bufotenine..the tingly in the back of the head mostly..
 
69ron wrote:
Well, psychosisdoses, SWIM tried up to 20 mg of DMT sublingually dissolved in 1 ml of DMSO, and it seemed to do something. He felt a little tingly in the face and hands, a little euphoric, and a melatonin like effect. I think the dose was just not big enough. SWIM was expecting more. 20 mg is enough for SWIM to have visions if the DMT is taken orally with an MAOI or simply smoked. So he saw this as a waste of DMT and never tried taking any more. It's likely the proper sublingual dose is 100 mg or more even with DMSO.

I'm guessing SWIY didn't use an MAOI for this, that may be why nothing happened, ah.
 
Yeah sorry, I understood that it worked, only minimally, I guess I meant to say, nothing 'much' happened. Thanks though, you've been a great help ever since I've joined.
 
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