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That has not been my experience, it is interesting you have drawn that conclusion.

I take it you are familiar with The Process and Sigils. Something you wrote also makes me think you are familiar with Book Four, is that the case?


I am interested in learning more about the system of magick you have worked with, if it does not defy an oath to discuss or share more about it. I ended up gravitating to what might be called Demeter worship, and have some plans to get to that in regards to the deity topic of the thread.


In my own experience Sex Magick is a trance state phenomena, it should be noted that what i am talking about is not trance state related and does not involve an altered state of consciousness in any requisite way. One can utilize such a state, but they are not required for this work and often get in the way. (though not for Mesa work, they are required for that specifically)


One might consider a dichotomy of rites, the first being those aimed to affect consciousness, in this regard their efficacy is related to their ability to do so, the second however is related to an appeal to something outside consciousness of the individual, in this regard efficacy is unrelated to effects upon consciousness.


One might be viewed as faith based, the other would then be viewed as effective regardless of faith.


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