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Desmanthus Illinoisis ( prairie bundleflower) words on extraction

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I see alot of threads asking about desmanthus illinoisis. Asking about extraction , yeilds , grammine, etc. I am from the south central United States. I have been endeavoring to locate native plants in which to obtain dmt. After about a year of research, and trial and error, I finally found my plant of choice and trial and error on extracting spice. This is for all the questions i have seen. First, yes you can extract a very substantial amount of spice through bundleflower. I have come to the conclusion that it is seasonal, around june and july, I was getting huge yeilds. This dropped off completely, at the end of august. Meaning i got rootbark, i went through the normal A/B extraction, i always used, and got nothing 3 times in a row at that time of year. Spring and early summer is the best time. I have only succeeded in get yellow / orange goo. It did blast me into hyperspace, in fact i found that bundleflower to be far better than hostilus. Thats my opinion. I love the fact i can take a walk and pick up plants and take them home and make something truly amazing. I made the machine once and that was a friggin trip. Super intense, super amazing. So yes desmanthus is in my opinion the go to plant , they are everywhere where i live , even in my backyard, which is desmanthus free at the moment, wink , wink. Standard ab extraction works fine, straight to base i havent had any luck. I will answer questions when i see them post. Happy hunting, they are hard to get out of the ground, but worth it.
 
Roots only, constant brushhogging keeps them close to the.ground. has anyone else noticed if extraction was seasonal?
 
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amazing news. Would be cool to do a test on the extract, to see what else in in there with this tryptamine and in what proportion is it.
thanks for sharing :thumb_up:
 
Yes, A test of the constituents would be awesome, if i had to guess, i would say fats and oils. Grammine is negligible and left behind during the extraction, unless an ab extract is how to extract grammine, even so its not eaten which is what the cattle were doing and in large quantities. I had one yeild of 2 to 3 grams for 250 grams of rootbark. Scientific data has recorded up to .034 percent. I was getting way more than what the studies show. Its spring so i will be recording all data from my experiments, photos and teks. Its mindblowing the amount of this species here in rural oklahoma. You could fill a warehouse with rootbark. God is kind and generous with these gifts. To bad we live in a society where the big G has to be all up in your business , regulating this, regulating that and taxing everything down to the paper you wipe your ass with. Nuff said
 
Thanks for this post. It’s awesome that you got it like that with bundleflower.

I’ve noticed the oils and fats too. Drying the root bark takes care of that. I was drinking tea of bundleflower when I noticed this post and before I made it I was thinking that it seems to become more potent as it dries as well.

I think I might agree about the seasonality as well. Maybe sometimes it’s better fresh. I noticed a patch of bundleflowers growing while I was fishing the other day and they have a really brilliant energy. I may go and harvest that little patch and work with them. I has some success extracting them through the changa route and with tea. I wonder what the absolute easiest way to extract them is.
 
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I see alot of threads asking about desmanthus illinoisis. Asking about extraction , yeilds , grammine, etc. I am from the south central United States. I have been endeavoring to locate native plants in which to obtain dmt. After about a year of research, and trial and error, I finally found my plant of choice and trial and error on extracting spice. This is for all the questions i have seen. First, yes you can extract a very substantial amount of spice through bundleflower. I have come to the conclusion that it is seasonal, around june and july, I was getting huge yeilds. This dropped off completely, at the end of august. Meaning i got rootbark, i went through the normal A/B extraction, i always used, and got nothing 3 times in a row at that time of year. Spring and early summer is the best time. I have only succeeded in get yellow / orange goo. It did blast me into hyperspace, in fact i found that bundleflower to be far better than hostilus. Thats my opinion. I love the fact i can take a walk and pick up plants and take them home and make something truly amazing. I made the machine once and that was a friggin trip. Super intense, super amazing. So yes desmanthus is in my opinion the go to plant , they are everywhere where i live , even in my backyard, which is desmanthus free at the moment, wink , wink. Standard ab extraction works fine, straight to base i havent had any luck. I will answer questions when i see them post. Happy hunting, they are hard to get out of the ground, but worth it.
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Ya I’ve been tryIng recently. An extraction but getting nothing your saying that it because of the time of year harvest? What if grown indoors
 
I missed this thread.. very cool to see someone having success with this beautiful plant!

I wonder whether the foliage is useful as well? Seems @Jackerspank hasn’t been active in a number of years. Anyone else had good results in extraction?

@BundleflowerPower when you say the changa route do you mean that you made changa with the alkaloids extracted from desmanthus? Would you share what the effects were like?
 
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I live at the 40th parallel in the US midwest (not prairie) and Desmanthus is a bit of a weed. If you do gardening techniques, till a patch, and seed it heavily, it will come up there with little care from then on. It'll sprout here and there elsewhere as well. It's not really aggressive, mostly because deer like it, but it's a bit of a weed.

Uses: Recommended for use in range seedings and for wildlife food and cover. Illinois bundleflower is a nutritious plant and is readily eaten by all classes of livestock, deer and pronghorn antelope. It decreases under heavy grazing and is an important range condition indicator. Its seeds are readily consumed by birds and rodents. It is considered one of the most important native prairie legumes (Stubbendieck and Conard, 1989). It is frequently used in range revegetation projects.

 
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