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DMT and Alcohol

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Toshido

Toshido

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Out of the 10-15 times I've smoked DMT I've always been drunk or slightly drunk,I find that I always really want to smoke DMT when I'm drunk anyways, I also I find that it helps calm my pre flight anxiety which is the main reason I'm more open to smoking it while drunk. Are there dangers here? I've heard other people doing the same, but I'd like to be safe. I couldn't access the drug interactions .pdf in the sticky thread.
 
IMO, this is very bad practice.

There is a good chance you are setting yourself up for a good hyperslap.

Alcohol is a poison. Drinking responsibly and infrequently is ok. But being drunk for something as sacred as DMT? I would actually be more worried if i were drunk, cause the entities are gonna give me a hammering. I ate junk food once before a DMT trip. They were not happy with me. Biggest understatement of the year.


My advice: don't be drunk. For DMT or otherwise. Letting loose once in a while is good, but if you are constantly getting drunk, that's a problem. Something that needs sober introspection. DMT or any psychedelic is not a panacea.

Here's a cure for pre-flight anxiety: BREATHE! Deep belly breaths, with slow exhalations. I do this until i am no longer trembling. If i can hold the pipe in my mouth, with lighter ready to go, AND i'm calm and relaxed, that's how i know i'm ready. Listen to your body, not an intoxicated mind.
 
I guess that makes sense. How would one define a hyperspace slap? How did Junk Food do that to you? I started getting bad anxiety about a year ago while I was traveling in Japan and it seems to have stayed with me. I take xanax if I ever feel really anxious. Idk I just can't imagine going into a DMT trip completely sober, I'd have a bad time I think. When I say drunk I don't mean hammered btw, only like a few cocktails.
 
I think you have anxiety issues and pre flight anxiety is certainly normal. But being high on alcohol isn't recommened. not that with DMT it is that dangerous for your health, but it is not good there... First time I smoked brakthrough dose of salvia divinorum ( was first salvia 10X smoking ever also), I first thought ok I'll don this when ready. then we drunk some rhum and fruit juices.. then it lowered my anxiety and did make me more confident and I said ok why not ?
I've been hyperslapped too.. Like trapped in between worlds and getting punished for my lack of preparation.
Some other Gabaergic herbs can lower your anxiety other than Xanax or Alcohol, I'd suggest you look into valerian and amanita musciara tinctures, L theanine and skullcap to name a few.. maybe even kava kava..
 
I don't think you can go very deep at all with alcohol and DMT. I feel like it instantly turns the experience into recreational. I never received any kind of hyperslap, although I could see something like that happening for sure.

I think it is all just a matter of how you want to approach the DMT experience. If having a couple drinks is relaxing, then I don't see the harm. In my experience, don't get drunk and do DMT. It's just a waste of some good DMT. All in all, I think it is best to approach DMT sober minded.

You get what you put into it. Tread carefully.
 
There was a time when I was drinking too much. I wouldn't call it crazy but I would come home from work and drink a six-pack over the course of an evening. It was around then I first started doing DMT. After some number of sessions DMT locked me out, saying to knock that shit (drinking) off. Anymore than two was too many. It hit me with what they call "evidential force" so outside of the very rare occasion I haven't drank more than 1 or 2 since, and I have been breaking through ever since as well.
 
Thanks for the replies everyone, and thank you for not judging as well. I just always really seem to crave DMT when I've had a few drinks, I'm the same way with pot. I'll give this a shot clear headed and maybe try to meditate before the next session. I have a friend who makes tinctures so I'll check out the amanita and valerian tinctures as well.
 
Yes widderic. try out the tinctures, ask him lemon balm, amanita muscaria ( 500mg / ml so like one ml is a microdose ), valerian root, and of you like as well CBD can all help with your anxiety while not screwing you up like binge drinking, benzo using or phenibut and the like... all can be dramatic and very bad habits to have. SO you'll have more fomr your DMT use or cannabis use... you can look also for passiflora incarnata tincture and dfive in harmalas as its relaxing for me.
 
Ok sounds good. I'll probably stay away from the CBD as pot of any kind seems to make me anxious and paranoid in my later years. Dunno why. But yep, asking my friend right now what he can do for me. Thanks again.
 
I used to be a frequent drinker of alcohol. It certainly gives a sense of bravery, yet it's almost like the bravery is purchased via agreement to drink. In exchange, the experiences tend to be less memorable or purposeful.

I'm not saying that the occasional dose of bravery isn't "ok" but there seems to always be some kind of exchange.

For some folks, alcohol can bring out a side that is not normally present when sober. I used to know this guy: drunk Mark. He was a co worker for a few years. Big-time alcoholic - but when he was sober, he was actually really likeable. As soon as a drop of booze hit his lips, it was like he had an excuse to be a belligerent ass-hole. He'd show up at my home (as well as other coworker's homes) uninvited and wasted. Bang on the door until someone would give-in and let him in. One second we'd be his best friend, the next he's trying to fight us. He'd demand that we either smoke weed with him or give him some of ours. Numerous times, we'd have to usher him outside and I'd have to tell him to get in the car to be taken home (my roomate didn't drive).

I baby-sat that man more than he looked after his own kids... which he lost after being divorced and completely going into a spiral of self-imposed hell. I feel bad for him; like i said, when sober, I really liked him. He had such potential.... but, oh well. Not my life to live.


So, why is this relevant? Maybe being drunk brings out "bravery" - but from the outside looking in, that bravery seems false, sporadic, and useful only to get in a further predicament. IF there are DMT entities looking after us... do we want to be a "Drunk Mark?" I promise... if the entities have anywhere near the patience that I had for him... it's only a matter of time before they do something that humbles false bravery.... lol. Here is a link that explains the final resolve of drunk Mark and the "Drayton Street Drop-Off." (The name was coined, later.) [Scroll past the links, unless yah wanna see some hyperspace stuffs.]

Take Care!
ACY
 
everything "seems to come easier" when you're drunk, like offend somebody, get into stupid fights, talk to a beautiful girl at a bar, jumping from a bridge into the lake, overdosing on chemicals you would normally respect much more when sober etc...
there's nothing preferable about goin drunk into anything, besides ego and numbing your fears, acting like a fake badass....
It's stupid don't do this!

nothing worthy comes to you the easy way...

AcaciaConfusedYah said:
I used to be a frequent drinker of alcohol. It certain gives a sense of bravery, yet it's almost like the bravery is purchased via agreement to drink. In exchange, the experiences tend to be less memorable or purposeful.
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If you ever get really sick, which is very easy all you have to do is get your dosage wrong, then having that alcohol in you is gonna make things so much more worse. To play with fire...
 
"I used to be a frequent drinker of alcohol. It certain gives a sense of bravery, yet it's almost like the bravery is purchased via agreement to drink. In exchange, the experiences tend to be less memorable or purposeful."

This was already quoted by Camponotus through AcaciaConfusedYah and that hit home for me too.

Acacia: I relate to you. I do love the whiskey but I also lived with a girl I've known for 15 years. Lived with her for a year and had to tuck her in after she came home plastered.

Addiction or not, I'm able to handle my booze, some can't. Having said that...

I entered the abyss tonight after some bar hopping, and I indeed got hit with that "hyperslap" everyone has been talking about. I'm never doing that again.

It wasn't bad, I had no paranoia, I wasn't freaking out. But it was extremely uninteresting and discombobulated. There were so many things happening at once. It was like seeing 8 therapists at the same time. One second boss then BOOM one second family stuff then BOOM one second "whoa this shape" then BOOM what do you have to do tomorrow? then BOOM why did you do this? Blah blah blah.

Needless to say it was extremely uneventful. And I knew it would be. I consciously went into this knowing that I would get some sort of hyperslap in order to reinforce the fact that I should not smoke DMT while drunk. Honestly it's turned me off from wanting to drink anymore, but I know that's not possible. I'm a sales rep for a liquor distribution company.

My last breaktrhu was awe inspiring and brought me to tears, I got to see some really amazing visuals but still brought something back with me that allowed me to grow.

This time? Nothing. I came out of it hungry and compelled to let everyone know that it was a bad idea haha.

If smoking DMT sober is 3 blankets layered on top of you, then smoking DMT drunk is like being tangled in those blankets trying to untangle them while you're flying through the wormhole. Thanks so much for allowing me to test this out and come to terms with it.
 
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Glad that all is ok. You don't have to go looking for a hyperslap - but they happen. Some sting worse than others. Depends how stubborn you are. Lol. I am pretty stubborn so I have been let known when enough was enough.

I believe in the possibility of using psychedelics to train our minds away from bad habits. I've tested it on myself, but it's hard to remove personal bias to "wanting it to work." Sure, I got the results that I wanted to see... Did I get them because of psychedelics? Or just of stubbornness and "wanting it to work?"

It's all a tool. Just gotta find the right application and know timing.

Take Care!
ACY
 
Camponotus said:
everything "seems to come easier" when you're drunk, like offend somebody, get into stupid fights, talk to a beautiful girl at a bar, jumping from a bridge into the lake, overdosing on chemicals you would normally respect much more when sober etc...
there's nothing preferable about goin drunk into anything, besides ego and numbing your fears, acting like a fake badass....
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indeed.. thats why I will never understand why alcohol is legal and weed & shrooms etc are illegal..
 
I don't think shrooms should be schedule 1 but the idea of people running around in the streets of Boulder, CO tripping balls doesn't sit well with me either.
 
widderic said:
I don't think shrooms should be schedule 1 but the idea of people running around in the streets of Boulder, CO tripping balls doesn't sit well with me either.
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I assure you that has already occurred many many times over the years!
 
Hahahah good one, but what I mean is much more people than usual. Hell, didn't Amsterdam ban mushrooms because someone jumped out a window?
 
I think: alcohol, mushrooms, LSD, cocaine.... you name it: all have a time and place. However that time and place is not for everyone or everytime.

I would rather not anyone get loaded on ANYTHING and then get behind a steering wheel... but people do.

In terms of death and legality: #1 cause of death in the US? Heart disease. That's right! Eat all that McNaz-D's and Booger King, completely legal! Want cancer? Sure! Have a tastey cigarette, or a few thousand! Not crazy enough? Hmmm... i got it, let's blame weapons, drugs, and the "counter-culture" for all of our self-imposed conditions! It'll be great!

....:? .....

Funny people. If alcohol is your choice and vice - don't let anyone stand in your way of being happy. If you're not very happy with your choice and vice - don't stand in your own way of happiness.

Take Care!
ACY
 
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